From a thread titled How to feel Worthy Enough to Make the Approach:





Thread then devolves into a page+ of semantics on the "PUAness" of the word "approach". It's just a word. See girl, walk up to girl = you are approaching girl. No need to interpret it as some dehumanizing stripping of "agency" or some other liberal arts college bullshit.

Jesus Christ.

There's actually another thread there though with a beautiful slap down of their budget version of Hugo Schweizer, the poster "Theory" (and it seems the slapper may actually get away with it!), but it's really too long to succinctly quote.

I've had quite a different experience with the Incel forum...they haven't even let me become real member. It's been over two weeks since I signed up put in the activation code. And I STILL can't post on the forums. Naturally, I became annoyed with that site and signed up here instead.

Welcome Prince. We have a diverse lot here in all types of things...and despite our disagreements, we love it here.

I got banned from the Incel Support site for making whatome would consider a mysogenist comment that if a woman was wearing short shorts that said "slap this" and somebody did, she wouldn't be able to sue. My comment wasn't meant to justify assault, it was just stating something obvious. Did it come off a little sexist? Maybe, but I wouldn't do such a thing or even condone an act. I tried to re-register, but they somehow found out about it.

What I hated about that forum is they promoted sensitivity, open-mindedness, and understanding, but when somebody has an opinon that is different from the moderators, they are erroneously judged and banned on the forum.

People should have a right to express their own degree of personal pain and theories on what causes incel. Its amazing how well liked members can throw unpleasant labels at others such as being socially akward, mysogenist, anger-raided, selfish, entitled, aspbergers yada yada yada, yet when somebody questions these things, they are told they aren't seeing the whole picture and should seek therapy.

I actually find it hypocritcal that incels are telling others how to think if they aren't getting dating right either. We need to support each other and stick together instead of talking down on one another because we don't share the same opinons.

I hope this forum is open-minded, but can be civil at the same time. We don't need self-destructive posts that can ruin the nature of a good debate.

Any sane person should stay away from the incel forum. It's like being in a cult. If you challenge the cult leaders or say something they don't agree with, you will be dealt with.

The incel forum is a cult.

If you ask someone to hit you, or try to goad someone into a fight, it doesn't exonerate the other person from legal damages if they decide to hit you. Legally speaking, she would be able to sue, except that what constitutes sexual assault is never as explicit as physical assault. I was punished for far less, and yet once I was out of the school environment I realized that I could get away with far more. Being stuck in an oppressive environment like that really fucks with your perception, and the people in charge fully realize what they're doing.

"She was asking for it" usually is a common cover for men acting like shitheads on purpose. The people over there were overwrought in their response by far... at most, the mods should close the thread if they feel it's beating a dead horse, instead of calling someone a sexist who needs to be institutionalized or whatever.

This forum is not open-minded, once you stick around long enough. It's just a different mess of sycophancy. It sucks because there aren't any good places to discuss this issue, and so much bullshit flung around. Instead of banning people, the sycophants here bitch and moan and high-five themselves and shut down any attempts at a real conversation.

But I'm sure there were cases throughout human history where the female was "asking for it", Maybe not by wearing sexually provocative clothing, but by instigating the guy, be it fucking with his self-esteem, crudely rejecting him, humilating him in some sort of fashion and not giving a fuck about the consequences. Sorry if I come off as a rape apologist or defender, but I think the whole idea of blaming the victim may have some validity to it. I discuss this with a noncel friend of mine from time to time, as well as one of my close female friends, and they both see where I'm coming from.

I tried to register again and they banned me. What a bunch of bastards. I feel I have a right to express my opinon.

I saw that site recently and didn't even want to bother with it for all the reasons mentioned above. Aside from that, it's poorly organized.

I am also a victim of the incel-support ban hammer. Although I used to post there about 2 years ago, I still remember why I was ostracized. I was very tact with my words, but I said something like "Whether you're religious/spiritual/neither, I think that if we (america/europe) go back to a more traditional society with strong Christian morals, women wouldn't be exploited as sex objects or 'bitches', relationships wouldn't have the manipulative games they have today, and a good man can win over a woman by just being himself."


Of course, fat cow Lacuna called me out for being intolerant and insinuated that I had something against LBGT people.

In some ways, getting banned was a blessing because during my time there, my self esteem got even worse and I became even more confused about social situations. The fact that it became so easy to offend people on a message board caused me to overthink situations in real life. Fuck that place. 95% of the people that ever posted there are alright in my book - they probably would fit in well here, but the other 5% discourage anyone who comes across their path.

There seems to be quite a bit of psychopathology on that forum. Its an educational place however. Some of the female members can be found detailing their horror stories about chronically drunk, and otherwise completely off the rocker guys, using language to imply it is a huge prob with guys. Then a male member will politely disagree, in a supplicating fashion, only to find himself giving a groveling apology for even the politely stated disagreement. There are many threads where only three people are talking with 8 to 10 paragraph posts and hardly nothing substantial gets said at all. The bickery head against a brick wall and sarcastic emoticons are used with reckless abandon against well conceived opinions.
Back on point, I found one thread particularly educational: the "wanting what you cant have until you can have it" , started by a female poster. She demonstrated from the start the female variant of love shyness: You like a boy, then as soon as he reciprocates interest you feel unworthy to be chosen by him and the ramifications of a relationship become daunting. Of coarse you don't choose not to like him. Your subconscious directs the feeling of no attraction. It is brought up in subsequent posts that this pattern of female emerges from greatly diminished self esteem. This helped me to quickly conceive of a theory: Women in general have a lower self esteem at baseline than guys. Coupled with a reduced libido, this makes them less likely to approach, advance and accept guys. Women with the most fragile self esteem( most attractive or ugliest) rebuff guys dispraportionately. Women are less likely to approach, advance, accept today than in times past because the baseline level of self esteem is reduced across all of society. Factors included as causitives include: hypergamy due to feminism, subclinical nutrient deficiencies causing psychopathology (not used in layman sense) makes socially breaking in more difficult, environment toxins to similar effect, and finally distortion of the appearance expectations for women through the use of models in media. Successful men are aware of the diminishing attraction dynamic and use the calibration of their signals and control of temporal momentum (when to call text) to a positive effect.

I don't think that 95% of people there would fit in here. Most of them are typical lefty liberals who abandoned one God illusion to worship the gods of therapy, political correctness , feminism, self-censorship and many other evils . Many of them despise everything this forum stands for. I am not saying that all of them are like that or that a good part of them couldn't be changed but in most cases you'd get people worse than whitewolf arguing here, being outnumbered and leaving.
Most people find both forums too extreme. For example, many of the people who found this forum sickening went there and got banned because it's far too PC for normal people. You can't even talk about looks ffs....

Thing is though, wherever you go, you're going to have to hear and face unplesant truths. They don't like to hear it from us, but they certainly love to dish it out to others.

I stand corrected. I went there for the first time in about a year today and can definitely agree that so many people would not fit in here. A lot of them seem like "pussies"...is that the right word? Surely someone catches my drift.

Haha, after several people kept personally attacking me every time I would enter a conversation, I get a banhammer.
It's funny because I hate this place more than IS, and if not for people going out of their way to attack my character I wouldn't feel compelled to respond in kind under the circumstances. Unfortunately you're not dealing with people who are interested in any sort of meaningful discussion, and just want to circlejerk.

I think I'm done with participating in forums relating to the topic of incel/LS, and seeing myself as such. Too many forums get filled with people who want to sell their bullshit ideology or social club.