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Do you want to get married at some point?
Yes: I want the long-term companionship and stability it offers. 35%  35%  [ 26 ]
Yes: I want a solid home for raising kid(s). 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Yes: That is the way things have been done for thousands of years. It's my duty to continue. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Yes: I feel she expects it of me/She might walk away if I don't put a ring on her finger. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes: I feel it is expected of me by family members or others. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Yes: My religion requires it of me. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Yes: I feel like a loser/I'm tired of being the only single person I know. 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Yes: For tax benefits/ability to easily pool resources/jointly own property/etc. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes: For some other reason (describe)______________________________________________ 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
No: I do not want to restrict myself to just one woman. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No: I want to be able to walk away easily if the relationship sours/if she stops putting out. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No: I need space/privacy/I am a loner/could not handle having someone around all the time. 22%  22%  [ 16 ]
No: I have too much psychological damage from long-term LS/incel to make a good husband. 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
No: I am unlikely to meet the right woman/They are all sluts/immature/flighty/have kids/etc. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
No: The risk of losing much or all of my assets in a nasty divorce makes the idea foolish. 8%  8%  [ 6 ]
No: I was married before, and I won't make that mistake again. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No: I have a bad job/no job/no money/can barely look after myself, never mind another person. 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
No: For some other reason (describe)_______________________________________________ 7%  7%  [ 5 ]
Other: I am already happily married. 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Other: I am already unhappily married. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Let's talk about marriage. Assuming you are able to defeat your LS/incel, and you meet the "right" woman, do you want to get married at some point? Why or why not?
I have listed some reasons for and against. Most people are going to have more than one reason for their preference, and some of these reasons are not clearly distinct from all the others. Pick the one and only one reason that resonates with you the most.
Keep in mind there are no "ifs" or "buts" in this poll. Assume you will potentially meet the "right" woman, however you define that, and answer yes or no for whatever reason accordingly. If you think that is infeasible for you, the fifth "no" option has your name on it.
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1. Cannot support myself; I'm in no position to seek out marriage.
2. I've made up my mind there is no one out there. Call it high standards, avoidant personality, self centered, ugly, whatever. Yeah, I have all of those. Women want the same alpha attractive man when they are young (leaving me and most guys out) and then look for a sugar daddy when they are older (guys who finally used their money, workaholic advantage to get girls only to have them cheat).

I ignore all women now. No one cared about me in my life, why should I start caring? People will be my friend, but it always has stopped there.

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Yes (lol so far I'm the only idiot who said that), in the mentioned case of finding the "right" woman. Although in that case we would be already committed on a long-term companionship, and marriage would be something pretty much symbolic, that's the kind of thing that stucks on you subconscious mind, may be making the bond stronger.

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Since you stipulated it was with the "right" woman, I'd have to go for a Yes, for the companionship and stability.

That's really the exception though, as otherwise I've heard enough about the horrors of marriage to ward me away from it, at least in feminized society.


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Let's talk about marriage. Assuming you are able to defeat your LS/incel, and you meet the "right" woman, do you want to get married at some point? Why or why not?
I have listed some reasons for and against. Most people are going to have more than one reason for their preference, and some of these reasons are not clearly distinct from all the others. Pick the one and only one reason that resonates with you the most.
Keep in mind there are no "ifs" or "buts" in this poll. Assume you will potentially meet the "right" woman, however you define that, and answer yes or no for whatever reason accordingly. If you think that is infeasible for you, the fifth "no" option has your name on it.
Women responding to the poll, change the gender of words as needed.


I'd marry my friend, since I would trust her with my life. She is the only woman I know of who thinks divorce is wrong. She hates feminism and the damage it has done to marriages.

Unfortunately, she is taken at the moment. Should that change, I am on the next jet to the east coast. :clap:

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Yes, I do. I also want to have children.

The likelihood of this happening is slim to none, but who knows? It might happen.

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This all depends on your definition of marriage. I've been thinking about the whole concept lately and come to the conclusion that the foundation of marriage is the promise to stay together forever. Over time, other things have been added that ruin the idea: religion, legislation, etc. So, I've kinda decided that I would love to get married, but remove all the stuff that is unnecessary and simply have being about me and her making a vow. It wouldn't be a legal marriage so getting away would be easy, but I wouldn't get any of the financial benefits while together. She wouldn't be entitled to anything if we broke up and I wouldn't have to go through getting a prenup at a time when I would believe we'd spend the rest of our lives together.

In terms of the event itself, we could then do whatever we wanted and not be guided by what society/religion/the law demands of us. I could even research some marriage ceremonies from different cultures and put them together to form a ceremony that describes my own beliefs which are not tied to a single religion.

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Asset Rape (though I have no assets)/Trust issues/Mateguarding issues/Loner issues/issue issues.

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the first statement in "yes" is absolutely true, but is completely overpowered by the negatives and the total lack of necessity in mixing marriage with legal ramifications. if i found the right girl, i'd be open to a religious ceremony, and would stand by my vows as though legally bound, but theres no way i'm walking into the governments trap, which is all it is now: a tool for enslavement.

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I voted "No, other" since I don't want to get married for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, I want to be able to walk away easily if the relationship turns sour for any reason, including but not limited to her refusing to do any kind of sexual activity with me which is an indicator in itself of how she feels about me.

Besides, I need a little personal space as I'm an introvert; I need my 'alone time' if you will. I don't think, however, that I've got any lasting psychological damage from being alone for so long; most of my resentment would disappear if a woman ever truly loved me. I do suppose I could get some retroactive jealousy if my future gf has had many more sexual partners than me, but that would be an issue outside of a potential marriage so it doesn't matter. On the whole, I need to be able to seclude myself from time to time.

Thirdly, the idea of losing a lot in a divorce makes the idea unappealing to me at best.

Fourthly, marriage implies creating a family at some point, but I don't even like children so I'd rather not commit too much unless I know she doesn't want any kids.

Lastly, I'm an atheist and as far as I'm concerned marriage is a useless Christian socio-cultural construct that contributes nothing to interpersonal relationships.

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Yes, actually. But I'm the male equivalent of an old maid now, so it won't happen.


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Yes, actually. But I'm the male equivalent of an old maid now, so it won't happen.


You dont really believe that, do you? 30 is still young, Adam. You are in your prime years, still ahead of you.

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I voted "No, other" since I don't want to get married for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, I want to be able to walk away easily if the relationship turns sour for any reason, including but limited to her refusing to do any kind of sexual activity with me which is an indicator in itself of how she feels about me.

Besides, I need a little personal space as I'm anintrovert; I need my 'alone time' if you will. I don't think, however, that I've got any lasting psychological damage from being alone for so long; most of my resentment would disappear if a woman ever truly loved me. I do suppose I could get some retroactive jealousy if my future gf has had many more sexual partners than me, but that would be an issue outside of a potential marriage so it doesn't matter. On the whole, I need to be able to seclude myself from time to time.

Thirdly, the idea of losing a lot in a divorce makes the idea unappealing to me at best.

Fourthly, marriage implies creating a family at some point, but I don't even like children so I'd rather not commit too much unless I know she doesn't want any kids.

Lastly, I'm an atheist and as far as I'm concerned marriage is a useless Christian socio-cultural construct that contributes nothing to interpersonal relationships.



Amen to that.

I am not an athiest, but I am not a religious person either. Either way, marriage has become a trap for
men, with little benefits, if things go south, except to the woman. They are getting real desperate, now
that so many men have caught on to the idea of never being married.

Poor things; I wonder how they will make it in life without a sucker..err... man to pay the bills?

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Onkel Willie wrote:
I voted "No, other" since I don't want to get married for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, I want to be able to walk away easily if the relationship turns sour for any reason, including but limited to her refusing to do any kind of sexual activity with me which is an indicator in itself of how she feels about me.

Besides, I need a little personal space as I'm anintrovert; I need my 'alone time' if you will. I don't think, however, that I've got any lasting psychological damage from being alone for so long; most of my resentment would disappear if a woman ever truly loved me. I do suppose I could get some retroactive jealousy if my future gf has had many more sexual partners than me, but that would be an issue outside of a potential marriage so it doesn't matter. On the whole, I need to be able to seclude myself from time to time.

Thirdly, the idea of losing a lot in a divorce makes the idea unappealing to me at best.

Fourthly, marriage implies creating a family at some point, but I don't even like children so I'd rather not commit too much unless I know she doesn't want any kids.

Lastly, I'm an atheist and as far as I'm concerned marriage is a useless Christian socio-cultural construct that contributes nothing to interpersonal relationships.



Amen to that.

I am not an athiest, but I am not a religious person either. Either way, marriage has become a trap for
men, with little benefits, if things go south, except to the woman. They are getting real desperate, now
that so many men have caught on to the idea of never being married.

Poor things; I wonder how they will make it in life without a sucker..err... man to pay the bills?


They'd probably whine some more about male privilege while simultaneously doing nothing to improve their situation and moving from one alpha to another only to complain how all men are assholes :roll:.

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Onkel Willie wrote:
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Onkel Willie wrote:
I voted "No, other" since I don't want to get married for a variety of reasons.

Firstly, I want to be able to walk away easily if the relationship turns sour for any reason, including but limited to her refusing to do any kind of sexual activity with me which is an indicator in itself of how she feels about me.

Besides, I need a little personal space as I'm anintrovert; I need my 'alone time' if you will. I don't think, however, that I've got any lasting psychological damage from being alone for so long; most of my resentment would disappear if a woman ever truly loved me. I do suppose I could get some retroactive jealousy if my future gf has had many more sexual partners than me, but that would be an issue outside of a potential marriage so it doesn't matter. On the whole, I need to be able to seclude myself from time to time.

Thirdly, the idea of losing a lot in a divorce makes the idea unappealing to me at best.

Fourthly, marriage implies creating a family at some point, but I don't even like children so I'd rather not commit too much unless I know she doesn't want any kids.

Lastly, I'm an atheist and as far as I'm concerned marriage is a useless Christian socio-cultural construct that contributes nothing to interpersonal relationships.



Amen to that.

I am not an athiest, but I am not a religious person either. Either way, marriage has become a trap for
men, with little benefits, if things go south, except to the woman. They are getting real desperate, now
that so many men have caught on to the idea of never being married.

Poor things; I wonder how they will make it in life without a sucker..err... man to pay the bills?


They'd probably whine some more about male privilege while simultaneously doing nothing to improve their situation and moving from one alpha to another only to complain how all men are assholes :roll:.


they already do that :lol:

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