You could even buy a prepaid monthly smartphone that has internet access. It will be a 50 a month payment you'll have to cover but it would be worth it. Wrap it up in pretty paper and bring him some cupcakes with it. Put your picture on the wallpaper. Put your number in the contact list. But don't YOU call him. Not yet. Text him. Alot.

If you can't afford these things, it might be worth looking for ways to supplement your income so you can. I work from home and have access to job ideas where you could make the extra money right from home.

That's an awesome idea, Joe.

Personally, I'd add this one too


But maybe she should wait a little while

In all seriousness, Joe...that song you posted was PERFECT.

Here's another good one:


Great.... And now I'm thinking of my oneitis of 14+ years. FML...

LOL you got me on a roll now. I DO Have to get my ass busy and get to work, but I have one more idea for you.

You need to get him used to you being around. Since he won't see you, you have to make extensions of yourself with common, everyday, ordinary things. For instance, tell him your favorite color is green and makes you feel happy. And that he makes you happy and every time you see the color green, you think of him. Guess what? Every time he sees the color green, he will think of you and that he makes you happy. And green is EVERYWHERE. Call him your sunshine. Sing the goofy sunshine song to him in your playlist. When he sees the sun, guess what? He's your sunshine.

You could even find common products/things in the world to associate with yourself. Like you two are like McDonalds French Fries...he is the French to your fry. Next Micky D's commercial? He's thinking of the two of you.

These are things that I have done myself.. I didnt plan it, it just happened. I know that when my friend walks down the road, goes through the grocery store, watches a dang TV commercial, he sees/feels me EVERYWHERE.

Awww, Joe:( But you are rocking the ideas here. Your pain and the experience you have from it is helping a total stranger who is caught in the thick of it and has no support. So consider this working for your benefit in the Karma department.

Chin up, my friend:)

And with that, I'm off to work. See y'all later.

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Ok ok, one more.

Which is well and all, but I'd like to take this opportunity to voice something that's always bothered me and what I see is common amongst other LS guys. Are all the DSR lacking guys across this forum, and the world in general, perfect? Of course not, no one is. However, it's glaringly obvious that so many of these guys have great things to offer in a relationship if only given the chance. As one of these guys when you realize this, and how much you do have to offer (and actually HAVE offered in the past ) it's hard not to fall into bitterness that is omnipresent with many DSR'less men. It's a bittersweet notion, for solidarity of man I'm happy to help out a fellow brother, but it's a hopeful yet sad moment to realize there ARE women who are willing to go such lengths to pursue a guy (LS/Incel or not) yet personally we have experienced 20/30/40 years of never experiencing said notion. In a perfect world there would be someone for everyone, but we all know this isn't a perfect world in every respect.

LOL I'm back. I do have to clock in in 25 minutes but it looks like once again, my gravitational pull to this subject is going to prevent me from my early morning get it togethers.

I do agree with you, CountZero. Most of you guys DO have so much to offer and I can appreciate what it must feel like to feel like you are watching a stranger that doesn't even appear to appreciate/respond quick enough, respond AT ALL to a woman who is trying to break through when there are those of you that just need a LITTLE bit of this.

But you have to consider.....that YOU guys are RARE. Such is the woman that you fully deserve. Perhaps some of us meeting together HERE will be the catalyst to bringing the two together.

I don't even KNOW personally any of the type women that you guys have so far run against. Wouldn't WANT to. I know they are out there, plentiful and the norm, but I seek out people such as myself.

Which means who knows WHO might be your connecting link. It might be someone that I know, or The Woman, or theright.

All that to say, I do understand what lost hope feels like. Maybe not in the same context as you experience, but oh boy do I know it.

I can't give up. As long as I am sucking wind, I have to keep going.

Please don't give up.

You know what's the most messed up part of all? We're the ones who have little to no "baggage" at all. And yet, women don't want us. Why? We're too "easy". Go figure, huh?!?

I certainly hope the fact that The Woman and thatright have not been around the past couple days means good news. Wherever you are, I hope there is progress.

I don't know about the other two men, but mine has been able to reach out to me.


But I have to tell you. It's not the severity of my mans problem that is the reason why it's not a happy end.
If' you never have been loved at all in your life, it's difficult to receive. The concept of being a pair, and in love, and nice to each other is easy. But in reality it's a two way street, we all have baggage. Wich awokes fear.
And love is nothing but lack of fear.

It's a struggle to have the guts to believe that this is for real. On both parts

What you really need (and most of us do) is the strenght of a mothers love, unconditional, allways there. No matter what. But women have their fears and problems of their own, so sometimes we repels due to fear, and lack of understanding aswell.

If I have not found this site I would have never realized the severity of this condition. We have had a lot of misunderstandings due to me not realizing exactly how hard it is for him. It doesn't always show you know.
So I have sometimes got him all wrong, theese things must be repaired, cause they increased both our fears.

This song is maybee a little shallow, because it isn't this easy to trust another human being. And how to know who to trust???
Because of IF we trust someone, lean on them and they take a step aside?
This has been done to me repeatedly times
(this place awakes so much self reflection, I'm not ready to share yet. But this man heals me aswell. I didn't fall from the sky into his lap)

I have a firm believe that if you choose a woman who has had problems of her own, but they must be mostly solved. Then she can relate and support you.
But you have to talk, to be open, it's scary as shit I know. And many will refuse you.

Again, my man has done so much for me in the past, he treated me with great kindness when I needed it the most. I ow him everything

And on top of that - he makes my knees weak. He's so much of a man in many ways. He's got integrity. Most men don't

Latorradora

I have so much to process, that is why I am a bit quiet sometimes

I'm glad to see you back around, The Woman.

I feel you on the processing thing. Boy, do I.