I suppose it's a case that, everyone here was naturally putting themselves in the shoes of these guys, and then being offended because it doesn't seem right from our perspective. Most LS guys here probably hope for a full experience with regard to being in a relationship (and like you said, the guys you were with weren't even LS I think, so that's one thing already). I think I can appreciate your point of view, because the thing is based on it being a mutual agreement and consenting. Right? ;o

Though sure, from the outside, it might seem like a strange situation to purposefully set up. We just assumed that being a guy in that situation, and not being welcome to the full experience probably feels like they are being unjustly denied it or something. So, we're all "Gosh..!" I guess the argument is, if you didn't want to offer that particular aspect to them, why even get into a relationship in the first place. But then, as I said, this rolls all the way back round to the idea of it being a mutual understanding between you and the guys, and also enters the realm of asexual relationships I guess - which you've already touched on in a new thread. So not much more to say. ;o I think in the end, if it was a mutual agreement, you weren't purposefully deceiving them, and it was all fine and dandy. From a third person's perspective, I think initially it just seems strange.

Right, everything kosher now?