I can't forget the first time and I sometimes wish I could.

A noncel telling an incel that sex isn't that big of a deal and who tells him what risks he's not taking (unwanted pregnancies, STIs), that's like a rich dude telling a poor guy that being poor is better because you won't get robbed, get your mansion broken into etc.

well just because they "regret" losing it to a high school gf or bf and it was uncomfortable, or quick........or the person they lost it to gave them an STD, or "broke their heart" or "used them"

they have to "talk" it down because losing it WAS a bad expirience. They have to make sure everyone else has a horrible expirience as well. Misery loves company.

I would lose my virginity to someone who truly cares and loves me for who I am, i would not give my V card to some floozy. . .

"There's nothing special about losing virginity." Ever notice how the only people who say this are those who've actually had sex already? It's so patronizing. It's like a rich guy telling homeless man how lucky he is not to have anything; even if the rich guy means what he says, it's still so condescending.

I suppose one way people justify this, is that without the experience, you lose credibility. It's like if a guy says making good grades in school is important; it makes a big difference how this is received whether it's said by someone flunking or whether it's said by someone who makes straight A's.

It makes me think about a lot of those born-again Christians who arrived at their life choice after years of casual sex, drugs and mutual abuse. Then they turn around and say we're not missing out if we never got to experience those things. But at least they got to do that first, before they settled on finding their peace!

I remember one time, I told a girl, after spending a late night at the club, that this is something I'm glad I didn't do when I was younger. She told me she didn't think much about it now, since she's much older, but at least she got to do it while she was young and it was okay to make those sort of mistakes. She made it sound like people who scorn those things without trying only sound foolish!

Virginity loss is supposed to prove certain things about a man's character and social standing. He reached adulthood and sexual maturity, he integrated into society, and he found a willing female whom he courted to be his partner. Not all those are true for every non-virgin man, but that's the context which is implied. What I feel most deprived of is the experiences leading up to virginity loss, the little details and steps along the way, all of which validate you, not only the last step. Having to rush through it, now that it's too late, only hides that you didn't go through the process normally, which I guess is better than not going through it at all.

I didn't go through it either. Seems quite a few didn't. Do you think that people are just good at presenting a B.S. persona? Perhaps we get too easily taken in.

If sex is so super incredible or special, then why are there tons of pornstars who commit suicide?

Just watch youtube "dead pornstars".

You will see men who have had sex with countless gorgeous women who have committed suicide.

Apparently, happiness is something to be found within yourself, rather than something external.

36 and still haven't had sex yet

This is true... but. It wasn't the sex that killed them. I think we can safely say that sex, no matter how great won't make you imune to mortality. I suppose you want to know why we're still alive and they're not? Well at a guess, they had things going their way for a long time when suddenly, for the first time ever, they experienced the shitty side of things, and they basicaly decided that they had done everything and couldn't be arsed to go on.

Don't feel sorry because someone who had it all committed suicide. Killing yourself isn't actualy that difficult if you've ridden the gravy train. If you haven't ridden the gravy then it is much harder to do yourself in because, you don't want to die a virgin, right? As long as you can see the tiniest chance of getting something decent, you'll hang in there. This is why people in poor countries don't suicide, yet from the perspective of someone whos got it all, they appear to have nothing to live for. Well, yes they do have something to live for, which is the hope of having at least a little bit of it, a tiny crust.

Put it another way, if you are poor or impoverished, what is there to die for? Nothing.