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 Post subject: Incel Awareness....
PostPosted: 08 Aug 2012, 16:29 
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The main problem I have with my incelibacy is I am having trouble getting to the root of it. I'm sure others here are as well. Sure we can come up with theories on why we're here, but at the end of the day, they're just theories and nothing more.

The sad thing is, this condition is not known to the general public, and when such a thing is brought up, its laughed upon. Even therapists write such a thing off, saying its a social problem, and my therapist said that involuntary celibacy is just an excuse to come up with a name. Its rather frustrating. Every time I try to come up with a reason why I am incel, I can think of somebody who has my problems and is in a relationship.

People with all sorts of flaws are in, or have gotten into relationships. Be they unattractive, overweight, unpopular, narcistic, criminal, overbearing, depressed, self-entitled, poor-hygiene, some incels have have those problems, but its too easy to say thats those things are the reason. With 7 billion people in the World, you can't divide these things into "incel problems" and "non-incel problems". Humanity is just way too complex for that.

That being said, I feel that their should be an incel-awareness campaign. Get the condition out there. Have PSA commercials, billboards, have group therapy meetings that are designed for that, have university professors research the hell out of it, get to know the incel population as a whole. Hell, while we're at it, have their noncels friends even try to help them with their problem.

I really hate how we're invisible to the public eye and suffering in silence. Its a real problem that can take its toll on your psyche. I feel in some cases, its better to be a drug addict or alcoholic since those are well-known conditions are can be solved. Incelibacy dosen't have that (known) luxury because we're so irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of the World.

If we can have this frustrating condition solved, we can find somebody we like that likes us back, have them accept us for who we are, and finally live a normal life.

Any ideas on how to get the word out on a mainstream level?


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 Post subject: Re: Incel Awareness....
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every time a guy is successful in DSR, figure out what he is doing that you're not.
then, do that several more times.
the common factors between all those guys, the attributes they all have in common that you do not, is probably the key.
I'm not pure incel. But I find the successful guys aren't necessarily all good looking, though it helps. mostly, they're aggressive. sometimes physically, more often socially. it's not just a matter of being sociable. they're forceful, push themselves into things, grasp greedily at what they want, gossip and bicker. act in ways that would make me feel ashamed and embarrassed, but everyone else laps it up.

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every time a guy is successful in DSR, figure out what he is doing that you're not.
then, do that several more times.
the common factors between all those guys, the attributes they all have in common that you do not, is probably the key.
I'm not pure incel. But I find the successful guys aren't necessarily all good looking, though it helps. mostly, they're aggressive. sometimes physically, more often socially. it's not just a matter of being sociable. they're forceful, push themselves into things, grasp greedily at what they want, gossip and bicker. act in ways that would make me feel ashamed and embarrassed, but everyone else laps it up.


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every time a guy is successful in DSR, figure out what he is doing that you're not.
then, do that several more times.
the common factors between all those guys, the attributes they all have in common that you do not, is probably the key.
I'm not pure incel. But I find the successful guys aren't necessarily all good looking, though it helps. mostly, they're aggressive. sometimes physically, more often socially. it's not just a matter of being sociable. they're forceful, push themselves into things, grasp greedily at what they want, gossip and bicker. act in ways that would make me feel ashamed and embarrassed, but everyone else laps it up.


That kinda reminds me of one of this television show I saw where this beautiful blonde female fell in love with this black violent convict. When one of the guys on the incel forum didn't know why women ignore him or stand him up, one of the posters suggested that his demeanor through the forum comes off as menacing and that it might show to the females he's talking to, yet the convict explicitly hurt people and got a bombshell of a girlfriend. Kinda insulting to incel guys who may have anger issues to work on their problems when a violent criminal(the fact that he is a criminal itself is another problem) can find love.

I hope this is not against the forum rules, but I'll take the chance this one time, I almost want that guy to beat her so she realizes what a fool she made out of herself to fall for him. Very angering to someone who tries to be a perfectly acceptable person only to get blown off.


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if you didn't realise already, the incel forum is a little like north korea :lol:

also, violence isn't really a "problem".
if anything, it's an advantage. maybe not with all women. but when you only need one, and you have hundreds throwing themselves at you for killing people, it's a pretty significant niche you've got there lol
your reaction is understandable. they seek out abusers whilst leaving you alone and suffering. there's a sense of "well, they get what they ask for"

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This is something I stumbled on that you may find some interest in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mMNFuLVt9U


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An incel awareness campaign in America would be like a Jewish awareness campaign in Nazi Germany.

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Fonduman wrote:
if you didn't realise already, the incel forum is a little like north korea :lol:

also, violence isn't really a "problem".
if anything, it's an advantage. maybe not with all women. but when you only need one, and you have hundreds throwing themselves at you for killing people, it's a pretty significant niche you've got there lol
your reaction is understandable. they seek out abusers whilst leaving you alone and suffering. there's a sense of "well, they get what they ask for"


Wow, I never felt so accepted for my angry thoughts(well at least not on a message board). Thanks for not being so judgmental. If this was the incel support forum, they were villify me for having nasty thoughts. How far can I go on this forum?


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fschmidt wrote:
An incel awareness campaign in America would be like a Jewish awareness campaign in Nazi Germany.


This doesn't make much sense to say. There was an unprecedentedly colossal campaign for Jewish awareness in Nazi Germany, certainly nothing comparable to miniscule awareness of Incel in any place or time.


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Fonduman wrote:
every time a guy is successful in DSR, figure out what he is doing that you're not.
then, do that several more times.
the common factors between all those guys, the attributes they all have in common that you do not, is probably the key.
I'm not pure incel. But I find the successful guys aren't necessarily all good looking, though it helps. mostly, they're aggressive. sometimes physically, more often socially. it's not just a matter of being sociable. they're forceful, push themselves into things, grasp greedily at what they want, gossip and bicker.


Yea, it all comes down to acting like a dominant alpha in social situations, and being totally comfortable while doing it. I think a total inner transformation is necessary for a beta to effectively become alpha. It's not just about acting like an alpha, a guy has to truly believe he is alpha so others will believe it as well.

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act in ways that would make me feel ashamed and embarrassed, but everyone else laps it up.


Why would you feel ashamed and embarrassed to act like an alpha?
In life you have two choices, you can either be submissive or dominant. It's up to you.
Submissive people allow others to dominate, thereby forfeiting their opportunities to progress in important ways.


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And to think that there are add campaigns like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0

It would make (more) sense to have an incel awareness campaign. Sounds fair to me.


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And to think that there are add campaigns like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0

It would make (more) sense to have an incel awareness campaign. Sounds fair to me.


Besides, with all her male-bashing remarks, you would think Wanda Sykes should be able to take what she dishes out.

By the way, sorry my spelling is off today. It's ad campaign, not add campaign.


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Lyle wrote:
Lyle wrote:
And to think that there are add campaigns like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0

It would make (more) sense to have an incel awareness campaign. Sounds fair to me.


Besides, with all her male-bashing remarks, you would think Wanda Sykes should be able to take what she dishes out.

By the way, sorry my spelling is off today. It's ad campaign, not add campaign.


They really spent all that money to make an add campaign over something as trivial as making fun of anadament objects? Gay isn't even originally a term for homosexuals.


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People are involuntarily celibate for a variety of reasons, but i believe the core of the problem lies with missed opportunity during an important phase of adolescence. Once the condition has established itself for whatever reason, and you've missed the boat, it becomes self perpetuating. Even if you do everything right, the very fact that you can't meet a woman will prevent you from meeting a woman and being successful in the dating game.


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People are involuntarily celibate for a variety of reasons, but i believe the core of the problem lies with missed opportunity during an important phase of adolescence. Once the condition has established itself for whatever reason, and you've missed the boat, it becomes self perpetuating. Even if you do everything right, the very fact that you can't meet a woman will prevent you from meeting a woman and being successful in the dating game.



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