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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2012, 04:35 
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So you follow Christ? You want people to see Him in your actions, and what you do. The fruit of the spirit. To serve in a joyful manner. To take all your problems to the cross. To *never* feel bad ever again right???? If you were evangelized in this manner, you may want to hit the Bible a bit more and read up. Making a decision for Christ is NOT easy or a cakewalk. You should expect persecution, and some alienation. Christ says this clearly many times in the Gospels. Christ was a REAL revolutionary, and like all revolutionaries....the walk can be a lonely one in THIS world. The world of men. The world of crass materialism. A world that is in such strife, pain and so fallen.

The fact is that if you do follow Him, you will have those times when you are targeted even more for believing in him. What do I mean by targeted? I mean you will be passed up for promotions at work because you STAND for something not of this world. You will probably lose some friends, or even relatives over your decision for righteousness. If you are guy who suffers from incel, LS or some other related condition, it can be downright scary. In John, 14:1 we are told to not be afraid to TRUST in God. This includes LS. Trust Him even more with this condition. Give it to Him. Pray. Ask Him to lead to your gifts, and skills to serve man. Allieviate suffering so you can LEARN more about your condition. Christ wants us to learn HOW to serve others so we can BETTER serve ourselves. He wants us to be humble.

So what about the issue of "women" and "girls" when making a decison for the Savior of us all? Especially being LS or incel......

Christian women lament CONSTANTLY that there are no "good, decent, Christian men around" and we men of Faith tend to say the same thing. I am guilty of this even now brother. It's okay. We're human. You don't want to be with a non-believer. You really have changed yourself. You have demonstrated the fruits of the spirit. You have been patient. You have felt the His hand upon you and felt your guilt and shame melt off of you. You repented. You do *feel* better, but something, something is STILL missing. It's perfectly okay and natural to feel attraction, have those needs that a woman can share with you.

You don't want to fall or stumble into porn. Men's magazines trivialize your situation and turn women only into a game. The ironic thing is, that women seem to be playing right along with it. Even many Christian women. Everyone out there is hooking up, and think it's okay. Remmeber the Lords prayer....about not leading US not into temptation, and forgiving people who trespass (sin) against you.

Remember, being a Christian is not going to be easy. Christ never promised fame, riches, or women to fall into your life. He promised righteousness. He told the truth, and you know it's true. We are the elite. Remember also that Christ himself, was homeless. He had no idea where he was going to sleep sometimes. He lived among prostitutes, the broken, thieves, TAX COLLECTORS, and the fallen. The people who needed Him the most. Like us, the incel, the LS, the vocel.........if you have this situation in your life, and you are a Christian.......stop doubting and believe! He understands your plight because he lived with people who had inumerable "bricks and hurts in their personal walls" and all his disciples were martyred for following Him. He had no army. He had no political power, yet so many were fearful of his influence.

One thing I 've noticed about Christian women in my short walk in faith is:

-Many really DO want a Christian man who STANDS by the word. Make sure your "yes" is yes, and your "no" is no.
-Some Christian women want to "see" what your walk is, and how you apply the gifts he has given you. Apostle Paul said "some have this gift, some have that" in a body of faith....ALL gifts are important. Christ himself made no distiction about certain gifts being better than others. He wants you to use what you have.
-The Christian women that are taken, or are dating Christian men; I've noticed that many of them like a guy who is "happy" to be saved. Happy to be blessed. If you have salvation and you don't feel the joy....get involved with fellow Christian guys. Join their Bible study. Be involved in Mens' fellowship. Take initiative. Remember, making a step for Christ was a choice. You still have to make steps in your walk with Him to grow and feel His love for you.

The Christian women who are looking for a Christian guy with a bank account or only being "hot" are not worth your time. Christ spoke of "tares" among the wheat in a field. The weeds (tares) look like wheat when they first sprout, but their motives are soon seen, and shown. Rise above that. Finding a Christian wife who will be like the woman in Proverbs 31 is a rare, but awesome find. They're out there...sure many are taken, but many are not.

Brother, if you are a Christian, and you do want a wife. Pray. Be involved in your church. Live by the phrase "use me Lord....guide me" and follow the gifts of service that Paul wrote to the Ephesians about.

It took you awhile to come to Him, and it will take awhile for you to find what He wants from you. I will pray for any of you who need it.

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Well,I no longer seek a relationship.I understand that I might not have the ability to bring up a child as a nice Christian person.So now I choose volcel.Fighting for God our LORD and Our Saviour Jesus Christ makes me happy and I would continue to do that.

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18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.




Abraham's father, Terach was an idol-manufacturer. Once he had to travel, so he left Abraham to manage the shop. People would come in and ask to buy idols. Abraham would say, "How old are you?" The person would say, "Fifty," or "Sixty". Abraham would say, "Isn't it pathetic that a man of sixty wants to bow down to a one-day-old idol?" The man would feel ashamed and leave.

One time a woman came with a basket of bread. She said to Abraham, "Take this and offer it to the gods".

Abraham got up, took a hammer in his hand, broke all the idols to pieces, and then put the hammer in the hand of the biggest idol among them.

When his father came back and saw the broken idols, he was appalled. "Who did this?" he cried. "How can I hide anything from you?" replied Abraham calmly. "A woman came with a basket of bread and told me to offer it to them. I brought it in front of them, and each one said, "I'm going to eat first." Then the biggest one got up, took the hammer and broke all the others to pieces."

"What are you trying to pull on me?" asked Terach, "Do they have minds?"

Said Abraham: "Listen to what your own mouth is saying? They have no power at all! Why worship idols?"

(Midrash Bereishit 38:13)


One of the world's worst disease is idolatry, especially the insane cult of buddho-idolatry which causes a very serious problem:
1.Marriage is forbidden in this cult. The cult of buddhism poisoned and still continue to poison many people with the evil and distorted idea that sex and marriage are evil and celibacy is the only good way in one's life. Unfortunately this cult continue to poison people with this idea which harms so many people.


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Ephesians 6:13-17 wrote:
Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit


And my favorite Psalm:

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My heart is stirred by a noble theme
as I recite my verses for the king;
my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.


You are the most excellent of men
and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever.

Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.

In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.

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And my favorite Psalm:

Psalm 45:1-4 wrote:
My heart is stirred by a noble theme
as I recite my verses for the king;
my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.


You are the most excellent of men
and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever.

Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.

In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.


It's clicheed, but I really like this one:

1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

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Well Amen men!

Look, I am not here to "save" the world, or you guys...I posted this for any dude who is in this situation and is Christian.

I thank you for giving me polite respect.

My fav book is Matthew, and Chapter 6 (the whole thing) does it for me.

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Isaiah 1:18-20 wrote:
18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

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Isa 1:18-20 wrote:
18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.




Abraham's father, Terach was an idol-manufacturer. Once he had to travel, so he left Abraham to manage the shop. People would come in and ask to buy idols. Abraham would say, "How old are you?" The person would say, "Fifty," or "Sixty". Abraham would say, "Isn't it pathetic that a man of sixty wants to bow down to a one-day-old idol?" The man would feel ashamed and leave.

One time a woman came with a basket of bread. She said to Abraham, "Take this and offer it to the gods".

Abraham got up, took a hammer in his hand, broke all the idols to pieces, and then put the hammer in the hand of the biggest idol among them.

When his father came back and saw the broken idols, he was appalled. "Who did this?" he cried. "How can I hide anything from you?" replied Abraham calmly. "A woman came with a basket of bread and told me to offer it to them. I brought it in front of them, and each one said, "I'm going to eat first." Then the biggest one got up, took the hammer and broke all the others to pieces."

"What are you trying to pull on me?" asked Terach, "Do they have minds?"

Said Abraham: "Listen to what your own mouth is saying? They have no power at all! Why worship idols?"

(Midrash Bereishit 38:13)


One of the world's worst disease is idolatry, especially the insane cult of buddho-idolatry which causes a very serious problem:
1.Marriage is forbidden in this cult. The cult of buddhism poisoned and still continue to poison many people with the evil and distorted idea that sex and marriage are evil and celibacy is the only good way in one's life. Unfortunately this cult continue to poison people with this idea which harms so many people.


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It bothers me about religious matters that there is no place in the structure for someone like me. There is nothing religion will accept from me. I can't serve. I can't but be like a perpetual child, always the audience to inflate the ego of another. How can I resolve this discord other than to not participate?


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It bothers me about religious matters that there is no place in the structure for someone like me. There is nothing religion will accept from me. I can't serve. I can't but be like a perpetual child, always the audience to inflate the ego of another. How can I resolve this discord other than to not participate?

What do you mean you "can't serve"? Why can't you?


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I feel like the defined proper place for the female types is to sit in the congregation and be sheeple. A few old ladies might get to serve coffee and donuts but there is only one opening for that. I get the impression, stronger from some, that the women are only to discuss amongst themselves, were it doesn't matter. The overall feeling is that I am not important, dim, and/or something to be controlled for the betterment of the group. I don't like this impression that I have.


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What gives you the idea that you have to be important before you can serve?


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You know the grouping, women and children. Women = children minus special events set aside for children. An add on. An after thought. An okay if we must. So low that when someone's got something to say to you they won't tell you but tell someone else to tell you and if I don't have a someone else who can tell me I don't get told.


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If you're looking to church as a source of adulation and ego-stroking, you're looking in the wrong place. It's really bizarre that you would think of church as the place to go for that.

Church is for God's humble servants. HTH.


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when I was a child, I wondered why only certain people of my classmates where chosen to...light the candles, pass out the bulletin, usher. Then it dawned on me toward the end that they where all male. Then many years later, in a different place, the truth revealed itself. Religion thinks women are the source of all evil. The end.


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Odalis wrote:
when I was a child, I wondered why only certain people of my classmates where chosen to...light the candles, pass out the bulletin, usher. Then it dawned on me toward the end that they where all male.

When i was a child, i wondered why only certain people were chosen to be soldiers... to fight, and to die, to witness unspeakable violence. Then it dawned on me, this was a sacrifice men willingly made to spare women the horror.

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Religion thinks women are the source of all evil. The end.

It was a woman that gave birth to the son of god, admittedly.


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