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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2011, 19:26 
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I_Fail_at_Life wrote:
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How long could you be sentenced for?


The maximum for "uttering threats" is 5 years, but I doubt I'll get that. This is probably for multiple repeat offenders.



If I were you, I would prepare for the worst just in case. If you're gonna go to prison, you'd better know how to survive in there.

- If an inmate offers you something in prison, like a cigarette, food, hygenie items, whatever, DON'T TAKE IT!!! It's a setup. Someone leaves a candy bar on your pillow, DON'T EAT IT!

- There are no friends in prison. If someone is being overly friendly, you'll "owe" them for whatever they giving you. Even advice comes with a price among inmates.

- Lots of booty bandits in there. I've even heard of a guy getting assraped in MINIMUM security! Take the advice above and they can't use "debt" as an excuse to try and intimidate you into doing stuff. It works like this...you borrow a bag of chips, you owe him 2 bags next week. It's 4 the week after that. Then 8. They attempt to wear you down over time with threats and say "we can settle this privately in the back closet..gimme a blowjob and I'll write it off, otherwise you gonna get a serious ass whuppin or worse"....then if you go through with it he proceeds to tell the entire cellblock you sucked his dick and you'll get labled a "punk", which is bad, bad news. You don't get your manhood back. Once a punk, you'll be a fuckboy for the rest of your stay and if you ever come back to prison and someone knows you from before, you're fucked.

- Be ready to FIGHT at the slightest sign of disrespect. If you aren't willing to do that, you're in trouble. This isn't the outside world. This is prison. Whole different set of norms in there. You'll have to be a totally different person than your outside self in order to survive in there. Someone stares at you, you whip the shit out of him. Someone calls you "punk" or "bitch", you better knock his fucking block off! Think of it this way: As yourself "what would Cenobite/Mikey do in this situation?" Don't tolerate any shit, because if you're white, first time offender, young, or slight of build, you're a target to get fucked in the ass by the prison wolves. AIDS is a death sentence and those motherfuckers don't use condoms. Remember that if those faggots try anything funny. DON'T go to prison looking for a fight, but IF someone disrespects you, break his fucking face in half right then and there!! Show them you're not an easy target.

- If you are seriously looking at prison, do your BEST to have them let you do your time in a minimum security facility. Its the least violent and you have little chance of getting turned out by some fag because most guys in minimum are there for non violent offenses or were transterred there because they are nearing the end of their sentence and need to be prepared for the outside world. It's a pretty good bet you won't have to fight anybody there, but it's best you still keep an eye out for any trouble anyways because many of these inmates came from higher security prisons. Minimum security prisons are almost like living in college dorms...you're not surrounded by bars and no razor wire fences marking the perimeter (it's just a white line). More privelages and other frills in minimum, too. If they put you in minimum, your time will be A LOT easier! I'm assuming this is your first offence, so play that for all it's worth IF they find you guilty. Most guys that fit the InCel profile would get eaten alive in a regular prison.


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if jail with bubba is likely, is it possible to plead insanity?, if not, we'll i dont need to tell you what you should probably do.

better than this shit



women know what happens in jail, so they see it as a way to conveniently punish a man by getting him tossed in with bubba and raped even though they vehemently protest rape of women


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This post is for describing my personal issues that I have now. I don't know if it's ok to post this there, but here is it.

I am a 31-year old man with no criminal record and a job since 8 years. I am Canadian. However not long ago I was discussing with people then they called the police and I am now accused of "threats". I won't delve into the details, but I wasn't threatening those people, and I wasn't even threatening people in particular. I was just raging about society in general in a drunken rant. I can't believe that I am actually charged for this.

On the same night, about 6 (!?) armed nervous cops arrest me at my home like I am some terrorist. I spent one night in jail then they released me with a bunch of conditions. I was forcefully removed to my home (because those people were my neighbors) and now I have to spend thousands of dollars to pay a lawyer. At first nobody even wanted to help me. Luckily, I was finally able to convince some people to allow me to stay at their home and later help me move to another place. So far it's not that bad.

However I will have to go to a trial in April. This is what really pisses me off. My lawyer told me that they would abandon the charges and that I would not go on trial, but now I have a trial. She also told me that I would not go in jail, but why should I trust her?

There is a few elements that make me think that I am completely screwed. I am pretty sure I will be found guilty. First, I told way too much things to the police like the complete idiot. They even made me confess that I wanted to blow up my school when I was younger. They will use this against me. Second, my neighbors said that I have mental problems and that I am anti-social and psychotic (which is totally false). They made me look like some psycho. Also, they said that I am bitter against women and that I spoke against women in the past. The attorney who is against me is a middle-aged woman and seems to be a hardcore feminist. I can tell she hates me and will try to punish me to the maximum because of my comments against women. Also, and not the least, one of the people who complained against me is a black girl, and I am white. When the complainants are black and the defendant is white, he always receive a much harsher sentence.

So that bring the question, why did my neighbor call the cops? Why did they hate me to the point of wanting to destroy my life? I'll tell you the real reason. I often chatted with them and one of them was a really hot girl. I was sure that we could date. She made many comments like she wanted to date me, sleep with me, etc... However later I found out she was just a tease and she didn't want to do anything really. I was a bit pissed off but didn't really hate her for it.

But what caused me to go nuts was when she started talking to me about some illiterate bad boy drug user that she met, and how she had sex with him after knowing him for one week and stuff like that. That was after she told me she would only sleep with me after we dated for like 1 year and how she had moral values. She was telling me all the details, and I started to insult her and call her names and I started to rage against society in general. I apologized not long after but it was too late.

She was angry because I insulted her and for a vengeance she told me she was going to call the cops and laughed about it. In fact when the cops arrested me, she was laughing loudly at me. And mind you, one of those "victims" is a guy who constantly bragged about the burglaries he did and his criminal record. These people would constantly take alcohol and drugs and be loud in the evening, preventing me to sleep. Meanwhile, I am the one getting arrested.

I was always a guy rejected by society all my life, so I expect harsh punishment. Most people never liked me, and I was often treated like garbage by others. So I have a feeling that the court will punish me hard compared to most people.

I mean, my lawyer assured me that I would not go in jail, but I am not sure if I should trust her. If I was to go in jail, I could go bankrupt, depending on the length of time and lose everything including my job. So right now love-shyness is the least of my worries.


First thing when dealing with police is to be polite, but lawyer up fast.

Do not tell them anything and remain silent. It wont keep you from being yelled at, possibly even harmed, nor will it keep you
from being arrested and sent to jail until you bail out, but they wont be able to use your words against you, in court.

Dont be a nice guy around cops. They are not the "good guys", anymore.

All you can do now is find a good attorney and talk to no one about your case, in the meantime.

I wish you the best of luck.

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if jail with bubba is likely, is it possible to plead insanity?, if not, we'll i dont need to tell you what you should probably do.

women know what happens in jail, so they see it as a way to conveniently punish a man by getting him tossed in with bubba and raped even though they vehemently protest rape of women


Unfortunately, most people these days do not understand the concept of obtaining revenge for an unjust act, or a falsehood told, apparently.

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jackson wrote:
if jail with bubba is likely, is it possible to plead insanity?, if not, we'll i dont need to tell you what you should probably do.

women know what happens in jail, so they see it as a way to conveniently punish a man by getting him tossed in with bubba and raped even though they vehemently protest rape of women


Unfortunately, most people these days do not understand the concept of obtaining revenge for an unjust act, or a falsehood told, apparently.


One of the reasons i left the dating thing is so many women these days are psychos and it only takes one lie on their part and your stuck in jail with bubba, fuck that.

good luck to you OP. I hope you weasel out of this somehow.


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My condolences. I was arrested earlier this year and have had to deal with a lot of bullshit. Being cooperative with the police DOES NOT HELP! Once you're arrested, they assume you are guilty and will use any and everything against you. But all of that doesn't matter now. I don't know all the details or the judicial system in Canada, but you if you do not have a criminal record nor prior incidents of threats with people, you probably won't go to prison, maybe a year in jail (again, I don't know how things work in Canada). I know guys who've gone to prison (including one of my best friends who did a year for selling weed) and it is not as scary as portrayed in movies. Here are some tips (if you are incarcerated at all, which I doubt):
Don't seem vulnerable but don't start shit
Don't join a gang for protection, they are more of a danger to you
Stick up for yourself, but avoid violence if you can because if you hit the wrong person there are consequences
Stick with your race and make friends. If you have no friends then you are vulnerable. These friends do not have to be super close or super badasses, you just have to have some

Side note: I had some physical abuse committed against me in jail, but it was by the fucking pigs.


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I have to echo the advice of previous posters: Don't trust the police. Personal experience, although I don't want to post details here.


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I know what I did is wrong, however I find it ridiculous that I am getting a criminal record for it. It was just a frustrated rant. Things could have been easily explained after a discussion. However it's obvious this girl wants vengeance for calling her a slut, and she uses all the laws to her advantage.


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whatever happens dont go to jail, flee to grenada or mexico or some other place if you have to


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I_Fail_at_Life wrote:
I know what I did is wrong, however I find it ridiculous that I am getting a criminal record for it. It was just a frustrated rant. Things could have been easily explained after a discussion. However it's obvious this girl wants vengeance for calling her a slut, and she uses all the laws to her advantage.

In case it's not clear, everything you said above is absolutely true, and I think we all agree with that.


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Sounds like they're probably getting you with some kind of conspiracy charge. Get a good lawyer. Like nature boy/once said, don't trust the police. They're trying to build a career off of you, they don't care about justice.

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Nature Boy wrote:
I_Fail_at_Life wrote:
I know what I did is wrong, however I find it ridiculous that I am getting a criminal record for it. It was just a frustrated rant. Things could have been easily explained after a discussion. However it's obvious this girl wants vengeance for calling her a slut, and she uses all the laws to her advantage.

In case it's not clear, everything you said above is absolutely true, and I think we all agree with that.


Part of the problem is that most people seem to assume that they can use the court and law-enforcement systems, to do whatever they want to people, with no non-legal repercussions, later on. Vengence, using the power of the government, simply for calling someone a word they didn't like? Thats just plain WRONG and it doesn't matter where in the world it occurs.

Hell, people seem to disappear fairly often, never to be seen again, you know.

Maybe some of them wrongly did some real awful injustice to someone and they were made to pay for it. I have no problems with that concept at all.

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Sounds like they're probably getting you with some kind of conspiracy charge. Get a good lawyer. Like nature boy/once said, don't trust the police. They're trying to build a career off of you, they don't care about justice.


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WTF?
I am really pissed off by that.
Arresting someone because of the 'slut' insult?
How about arresting every fucker who called and Incel person a 'loser', 'lamer', or 'with no balls'? Ah, sorry, that won't happen...

In the same world where REAL crimes happen? Like corporate swindling? Medical fraud? Harmful chemical leaks being swept under the rug? Really?

I thought that those cops who chased around and caught poor old folks and disabled, who just to survive gathered mushrooms, berries and greens in a forest and sold that on a local flea market without a 'proper license, permission, cash register, accountancy and other oh so important things' (OH NOES, illegal trade! catch the evil culprit!) were disgusting... They could have instead, you know, fight the local mafia, who smuggled 1000x more of stuff than said old man ever saw in a lifetime, but NOooo, that's actually might be dangerous), now this? :facepalm:

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I honestly don't understand how they can arrest you on the words of someone that you hardly even know? Is this legal?

A really good lawyer would have a field day with this, and rip them to shreds! Unfortunately, it looks like you can't hire a really good lawyer.

I hope things work out for you, man. Sorry. :(

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