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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2011, 09:28 
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Again- sorry for the preachy, I just think you could really improve what you're doing.


Yes, I probably can fine tune/or improve my diet like you have alluded to, but compared to what I used to eat a lot of eg. two chocolate bars a day, McDonalds and other take away food, my diet has improved.


Just IMO, after the reading I've done and my personal experience: your diet doesn't need a fine-tune, it needs a total overhaul. You may have improved from your previous diet, but you are eating precious little real food, and way too much sugar. Consequently you are hungry much of the time because carbs open a bottomless pit of appetite. Feed your body correctly, and you unlock energy, eliminate hunger, and can lose weight at the same time.

But hey. Just another guy on the internet, 8000 miles away, yadda yadda yadda.

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If you can lose weight based on your diet, then you must have a much higher metabolism than me, but you must take into account that we are all different, however I am open to all new ideas and suggestions.


If you have never actually eaten a fairly clean low carb, mid protein, high fat diet, I can see why you could think that I have a "high metabolism". Personally, every guy I know with a "high metabolism" can eat whatever the hell they want and stay skinny. If I try and go Big Mac to Big Mac and Pizza to Pizza with a guy like that, I'll get fat. So my metabolism can't be all that quick, sorry to say. It's just that my chosen food is satisfying, so my body is happy, so I don't get hungry.

If you really do have an open mind on the subject, I still maintain that you should read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes.


I don't think my diet is all that bad, I like the cereal I eat in the morning (in a small bowl and with skim milk) because it tastes good, and yes there is some sugar, but for the most part it's nutiricious and it's full of fibre. The orange juice I drink is the freshly squeezed type, and I only have a small glass. My lunch is a small tin of tuna and two slices of grainy bread, my snacks are usually a museli bar or some apples. There are sugars in apples (natural ones I'd imagine), but it's better to eat fruit than to eat 2 chocolate bars a day like I used to. With milk, I only have skim/low fat milk or some soy milk.

With fish/meat/chicken etc, I only have meat maybe once or twice a week, and I eat my chicken without the skin, being that eating chicken with the skin is fattening. I pretty much have steamed vegetables daily.

Like I said before, we are all different, and what may work for you, may not work for others, if I was to eat your diet (I am not putting it down, or being critical of it), I would put on weight. I do have to exercise a lot, but there's no harm in that, as weight loss (usually, but not always) requires a combination of both diet and exercise.

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I don't think my diet is all that bad, I like the cereal I eat in the morning (in a small bowl and with skim milk) because it tastes good, and yes there is some sugar, but for the most part it's nutiricious and it's full of fibre. The orange juice I drink is the freshly squeezed type, and I only have a small glass. My lunch is a small tin of tuna and two slices of grainy bread, my snacks are usually a museli bar or some apples. There are sugars in apples (natural ones I'd imagine), but it's better to eat fruit than to eat 2 chocolate bars a day like I used to. With milk, I only have skim/low fat milk or some soy milk.

With fish/meat/chicken etc, I only have meat maybe once or twice a week, and I eat my chicken without the skin, being that eating chicken with the skin is fattening. I pretty much have steamed vegetables daily.

Like I said before, we are all different, and what may work for you, may not work for others, if I was to eat your diet (I am not putting it down, or being critical of it), I would put on weight. I do have to exercise a lot, but there's no harm in that, as weight loss (usually, but not always) requires a combination of both diet and exercise.


Exercise is good for improving fitness, but not so much for weight loss. Think about the phrase "working up an appetite", or your own snack attacks after you hit the gym, and you might see what I'm saying.

But no worries. If you're happy doing what you're doing, steady on the course. I've said my piece.

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I don't think my diet is all that bad, I like the cereal I eat in the morning (in a small bowl and with skim milk) because it tastes good, and yes there is some sugar, but for the most part it's nutiricious and it's full of fibre. The orange juice I drink is the freshly squeezed type, and I only have a small glass. My lunch is a small tin of tuna and two slices of grainy bread, my snacks are usually a museli bar or some apples. There are sugars in apples (natural ones I'd imagine), but it's better to eat fruit than to eat 2 chocolate bars a day like I used to. With milk, I only have skim/low fat milk or some soy milk.

With fish/meat/chicken etc, I only have meat maybe once or twice a week, and I eat my chicken without the skin, being that eating chicken with the skin is fattening. I pretty much have steamed vegetables daily.

Like I said before, we are all different, and what may work for you, may not work for others, if I was to eat your diet (I am not putting it down, or being critical of it), I would put on weight. I do have to exercise a lot, but there's no harm in that, as weight loss (usually, but not always) requires a combination of both diet and exercise.


Exercise is good for improving fitness, but not so much for weight loss. Think about the phrase "working up an appetite", or your own snack attacks after you hit the gym, and you might see what I'm saying.


i disagree, working out and watching your diet should go hand in hand if you want to be healthyer, thinner etc

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my progress: my body fat % is coming closer to what i want to achieve (6-8 % bodyfat), my abs really show now, i still have to add muscle again on my upperbody though, i have stagnated a bit with my cardio as i have been stuck on 39 km/h for a couple of weeks on the home-trainer

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my progress: my body fat % is coming closer to what i want to achieve (6-8 % bodyfat), my abs really show now, i still have to add muscle again on my upperbody though, i have stagnated a bit with my cardio as i have been stuck on 39 km/h for a couple of weeks on the home-trainer


That's a fantastic achievement, and if there's one thing that women love is abs on a guy. May I ask, what are the best exercises to get abs/or tone up the stomach area?

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my progress: my body fat % is coming closer to what i want to achieve (6-8 % bodyfat), my abs really show now, i still have to add muscle again on my upperbody though, i have stagnated a bit with my cardio as i have been stuck on 39 km/h for a couple of weeks on the home-trainer


That's a fantastic achievement, and if there's one thing that women love is abs on a guy. May I ask, what are the best exercises to get abs/or tone up the stomach area?



keep in mind i've always had got good abs and i've been doing exercies for my abs long before i joined a gym, but only now i'm thin enough for it to really show

the exercises i do, i do them 3 or 4 times a week for about 20/25 minutes at a time, mostly i do just situps on a fitnessball and lying down on my back on a bench swinging my legs up to a 90 ° with your legs alongated as much as possible (you use your arms for support but only a little, its your abs and legs who have to do most of the work)

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my progress: my body fat % is coming closer to what i want to achieve (6-8 % bodyfat), my abs really show now, i still have to add muscle again on my upperbody though, i have stagnated a bit with my cardio as i have been stuck on 39 km/h for a couple of weeks on the home-trainer


That's a fantastic achievement, and if there's one thing that women love is abs on a guy. May I ask, what are the best exercises to get abs/or tone up the stomach area?


work your core (do compound lifts) and then reduce your body fat... it is highly dependent on genetics if your abs will show at a decent body fat
or if you'll have to go to extremes to reduce your bodyfat to show your abs... some people just can't show their abs no matter how strong they are...
they're too "flat" and spread out... the muscle peak is just not enough

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Exercise is good for improving fitness, but not so much for weight loss. Think about the phrase "working up an appetite", or your own snack attacks after you hit the gym, and you might see what I'm saying.


i disagree, working out and watching your diet should go hand in hand if you want to be healthyer, thinner etc


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Little woman here. I feel like I'm doing good anymore to lift weights 2x a week. There was a time I went everyday and all that happened is I looked man-muscled but not sure that I was actually stronger. Then I had a bad year and got this nice thinner but still muscled look. I'm afraid I might loose that if I don't do more. I'm pretty sure my problem is totally personality.


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I was able to lose about 55 pounds by biking daily, and cutting out sugared soft drinks. A mild reduction in calories greatly helped too.

Although I've still got about five or ten pounds left to lose, I now have a good twink-like figure. That doesn't seem to help me in the guy department though.


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If I lost twenty pounds I would be ecstatic


That's only about 9kg, and with good diet and exercise that's very achievable. When you are trying to lose weight, you may sometimes hit plateaus where in spite of training hard and dieting, you can't seem to lose weight. I had several of these plateaus when I was trying to lose weight, but I was able to overcome them by shocking the body with different forms of exercise and weight training.

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Today i reached another goal, i had set out for myself to do 40 km/h for 40 minutes on a home-trainer at least twice and today i did it for the second time! 40,28 km/h, i think thats pretty good. Now i'm just going to try to maintain this average speed and focus more on weighttraining again.

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I love weight training. When I am angry or heavily depressed I start lifting weights. It's a great stress reliever. It's nice to feel the pain when I work out extremely hard. I gained a bit of muscle, but still not enough.

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some of that stuff sounds pretty extreme. when I was losing weight (seemed to hit a plateu after a while), I just walked for an hour a day and cut out most junk. just made myself a root vegetable casserole with swede, turnip, carrot, onion, garlic and sweet potato in a vegetable stock and tomato medium for dinner, feeling pretty healthy :coolbeans: :lol:
although significant cardiovascular fitness has never been a realistic goal for me. i'm of stout frame, mostly fast twitch muscle proportion, etc. not made for running, although i'd like to be in shape, as such, as to be healthy.

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