Notice his body language/ioi philosophy.

I wouldn't be taking too much notice of these PUA con men, they may give some good advice, but most of it is the usual "new age/positive thinking" quackery. And don't believe those videos where some guy picks up some girl on the street, they are staged.

perhaps. they have a special with nightline or dateline comin up i believe

Look, if you want to waste your time with that shit.....go right ahead.

PUA works ONLY if you're 'hot'.

If you ain't...

"EEEEEWWWWWWGETAWAYFROMMECREEP/PERVERT/RAPIST/STALKER/SERIALKILLER/PAEDOPHILE"

But hey! It's a free world.

Quoting from that youtube clip.



Hey buddy, do you even realise that you can't assume things like this?

ASS-U-ME: Making an ass out of u and me.



Seems like it must be KOOL to be incel then? Hey? The "dating gurus" of the world actively encourage men to get rejection after rejection, without mentioning anything about why they get rejected or self improvement. Thus the "dating gurus" of the world see no problem with incel and men being constantly rejected. So ask this guy if it's KOOL to be incel. See what his answer is....

I think the challenge here is getting yourself into the mindset and condition to accept the advice. Everyone gets rejected. But being able to move on is the challenge, some are equipped to handle it better then others.

Coby, the reason for this is pretty self evident...

Why do some Martial Arts Masters (as well as boxing instructors) encourage students to hit/kick sandbags/punching bags until your knuckles hurt and swell?

Because once your knuckles are calloused up, it no longer hurts and you are stronger and more bold in your attacks.

In other words, it's so rejection becomes a non-obstacle and you become non-reliant on the outcome.

It's also the same reason that a Drill Sarge will rip everyone down. They tear you down to make you callous, and then they build you up from their to have a very focused sort of esteem.

Agreed about immunities to thresholds in pain, mr mongrel. Point taken.

However you are mixing up physical versus emotional pain. Both types of pain are real, and both types of pain mess with the human-psyche in different ways.

Sure a physical pain if pressured enough will stop hurting and the person will get used to it. But the psychologiccal pain of rejection from another human being, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, will bear a terrible consequences on that person's mental state.

Don't confuse mental anguish, which is psychological, with physical pain, which is physical anguish. They are different types of pain, and both require different types of remedies to cope with and/or overcome.

And BTW, if a drill sargent in the army were to rip me down, I'd quit the army before he tore off any shards I had left of self-respect and decency.

Hey, I've even known people who have quit their jobs before they got fired because they were being performance-managed to the 100th degree by their boss (I should know this, I'm a people-manager in my company). Generally these people have gone onto bigger and better things after they quit their jobs, often-times outshining their former employees and former boss in their new careers.

he makes a good point though, not unlike what I've been on about.. In order to build something stronger than your ego, you have to tear it down first. A drill sergeants job is to rip everyone down, not just the screw-ups. They're there to get the "I" out of your head. By doing so they not only make you confident in yourself, but your team. I think you'll notice a common theme among soldiers, they are fighting for the guy next to them. They're willing to sacrifice everything in order to save one of their own.
Again the importance on others, not yourself.

Same with a dilapidated structure. You may want to build a marvel of engineering but first you have to tear down the old creaking building in the way.

Really? Is 100s upon 100s of rejection until you find someone you're attracted to really all where it's at? How come there are plenty of other men who don't have to put up with this? So why should we?

All I'm saying is that I'd say you need to stop the self-esteem destroying exercise of rejection alltogether. There is a way that you will never be rejected, nor have your self-esteem ever dented again by the rejection of a woman. How? The secret is to wait until she shows you very clearly that she is attracted to you first, by her actions. Otherwise known as blatant IOIs. If a man waits to receive these first, and receives them, then he should be able to approach the girl in a much better situation than if he were just to approach assuming that she is attracted, when she's not, and then gets rejected, and his self-esteem gets sunk when this happens again on repeat for a few years.

If you haven't realised by now, I'm not a big supporter of the cold telemarketing approach to solve these issues.

Furthermore, if the man never receives IOIs from any women ever in his life, I would advise him to forget about women and focus on other things, and die a fulfilled single man who focused on other things but women, rather than struggle through rejection after rejection all his life and end up with a shattered self-esteem and feeling like a worthless pile of trash.

I'm not saying you need to destroy ego by racking up 100s of rejections. That obviously will just make you feel terrible. It's something that can be done all by yourself. I had a push in the right direction yes, but where I went with it was totally up to me.

See that want/need to protect your self esteem is a result of your ego saying "omg stop this hurts." When you don't let your ego control your reactions to things like that, it stops hurting. This is where the guys who make this video are coming from, sort of. They went about it in a totally different way, I don't know their stories at all actually. But they have that over-confidence I was talking about. As opposed to lack of an ego centric personality. They're arrogant, and it works for what they do.

I don't advise becoming arrogant. But I do think that being able to deal with a rejection without it stinging for days, hours, or stinging at all is something that can be done before you ever approach again. Ego is the thing that seeks acceptance from women when you get rid of it and stop feeding it, you can start to control it. You start to become self aware, and rather than react on emotion, you start to see why something makes you react the way you do. And if you start to slip you can catch yourself.

This is something that Adam82 really needs to read and think about. I feel bad for him, TBH. He's very much basing everything on negative emotions and an attempt to protect his ego from the possibility that just *maybe* part of his problem (if not all of it) is how he handles things so melodramatically and emotionally, not to mention defensively.

1. 'PUA CON MEN'? Some of these guys don't get paid for what they're doing. So what are they trying to con you out of?

2. 'they are staged' Wow, according to who? Were you there? You're joking, right?

Or maybe if you sound like you hate the world in the undertones of your voice and/or body language.......

So it's better to not approach at all, and think 'what if' for the rest of your life?