I said I'd make a thread of exactly what I did, so here it is.
Mind you right now I am in a major slump, and it seems like I exhausted all prospects. I'll just have to wait awhile for the new batch of people to sign up.Which sites?
The two main ones I use are Plenty of Fish and OkCupid. They are both free, and both seem to have more users than all of the paid ones. The other free ones are a waste of time and don't have any experience with the paid sites. ALL of my dates have come from Plenty of Fish while OkCupid girls seem a lot more flaky for whatever reason...also another thing to note at any given time Plenty has over 3x the members online than OK so statistically your chances are better at Plenty.
The most important thing: PICTURE
If I had to pick the most important thing about your profile, it is your picture. When I first tried online dating I had standard pictures...and well I literally would get no responses. I recently changed my picture to a shirtless pic and now not getting much, but some is better than none. I know a lot of you have taken up working out as a way to beat incel and I realize not everyone has a 6 pack or huge arms. You gotta go with something that you have. For instance UWT goes to the gym and has bigger arms than me, so I recommended showing off his arms. If you are not fit at all try and get fit. If you are not extremely overweight all you would need is 6 months. I remember my incel friend worked out with me for a couple of months and lost 25 pounds.
Here is the regiment I do, and good for beginners: http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5- ... g-program/
Your main picture is obviously the most important one. I'd say more times than not a girl that responds to my message won't even LOOK at my profile, meaning the actual content of your profile is meaningless for the most part. An average girls inbox is overflowing with messages, and doesn't have time to look at profiles.
Profile, what IS important
Alright so most of the content isn't important, but there are a couple of key things that are important. The first thing is don't limit yourself by putting specific things that will filter you out by a girls search criteria. What do I mean by this? Here are some examples:
-I am 5'11, so I put I am 6'0. A LOT of girls will filter out guys that are below the 6' threshold, but in person wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 5'11 or 6' so fuck it.
-For build if you have hit the gym for a couple weeks put athletic...again the filters.
-For religion if you are atheist don't put anything otherwise just put christian. I used to put atheist and a couple of girls openly said they don't date atheists, so don't limit yourself on something so trivial.
-Income can't really comment
Otherwise just make a basic profile. Don't put anything controversial, remember you want to appeal to as many girls as possible. You have to treat it like a politician would...you want everyone's vote!
Now comes the fun part...messaging women. First thing to get out of the way...90%+ of the girls won't respond. That is a fact of life. I made a fake profile at Plenty with a girl that was about an 8 in looks and she got 150 messages in a 3 day span. Lets do a roll reversal here for a second. What if YOU got 150 messages in a 3 day period? Would you respond to them all? Hell would you even read them all? Which ones would go instantly in the trash? The ones that I'd toss out is the ones that all looked the same...and guess what? 70% of the messages were a combination of "Hey/Hi/Hello" and the popular OKCupid one is the "wink" response. (you can wink for people to message you)
Here is an example from OkCupid. 50% of the messages have the Wink as the title, while the other 30% have the "Hey" variation, and the rest are unique titles. So just by making a unique title you are already beating out 80% of the guys because girls just don't have the time to sort through everyone being a hot guy or not. The one I use a lot is: "You seem interesting"
As for the actual message, keep it short. You gotta get their attention, and keep their attention so make it somewhat interesting. But just getting through the unique title filter is most of the battle.
Numbers Numbers Numbers!
There are 2 things I am referring to when I say numbers. The first thing is you have to absolutely spam the shit out of all of the women in your area to even just get a few responses. For your search criteria I'd search for people a couple year younger and older than yourself, and withing a 50 mile range. DON'T even bother messaging girls that haven't been on for more than a month...they aren't coming back. Also you should prioritize who you message, the highest priority being the people that first join. If you can get a jump on those girls than that is less competition you have to deal with...early bird gets the worm. I also put a higher priority to girls that live closer, look better, etc.
The second thing I mean by numbers is you HAVE to get her number and fast. Don't even bother with the whole iming/pen pal bullshit...you'll thank me when you find out how flaky these girls are and saved you 3 months of your life you'll never get back iming a flaky bitch. My rule is after about 3 to 4 responses is when I'll ask for her number. 2 of her responses in say your name and on the very next response ask for her number. My theory is if she gets your name, then it seems more personal and you stand out a little more than the others. When she does give your number send her a text so she'll have yours as well. If she refuses to give her number then drop her....she won't EVER give it and it is a waste of time. Think about it...what MORE could you possibly talk about that can't be said from the profile and 3-4 responses? See what I mean? DROP HER!
Here is the part I am still a little sketchy on so it is a work in development...but here is what I can tell you. 50%+ of the girls will flake even if you have plans! I made plans with this one girl and a couple days later she said she hardly knew me to be making plans. (lol wut) So I said fine, I'll just go out with another girl on that day. So that girl ended up flaking too! Ridiculous...
My theory is maybe you have to talk with the girls more rather than just texting, although lately most of the girls won't pick up when I call even after asking if they can talk. But there are a lot of girls I met up without even talking to on the phone so I guess it is just a case to case basis. Main thing is don't pester them too much and make plans quick. Cause it is never going to happen if you don't take quick action.
-If a girl doesn't initially respond don't worry...a week later message them again with a different title. lol I know it sounds stupid but it has worked! Remember 150 messages in a 3 day span and a week later...she won't even remember you contacted her to begin with! This has worked on several occasions and over several accounts. One girl messaged me when I signed up again who originally flaked on me! She didn't even remember who I was...and I basically told her to fuck off and that she is a joke.
-Facebooking seems to never work. Every girl who I have gotten their facebook hasn't worked out for whatever reason...so use caution.
-Lie about your incel. Testing it out...every single girl I mentioned to that I was a virgin flaked.
Anyway hopefully this helps out some people...this is exactly what I am doing right now. If I think of anything else I'll edit it. I'll answer questions too...-------------------------------------------------------------------Update 2/7
Alright I said I'd add on to this, so here is the first major update.
Before I said Facebook doesn't work, but the last couple of weeks I have been having more success through Facebook. I think the key there is not to just rely on Facebook, but get the girls number and Facebook to keep communication up. That is one thing that is VERY important, try to contact her almost every day so she remembers who you are. She WILL forget about you within a day. Take today for an example:
-This girl messaged me first and we messaged back and forth a couple of times
-The next day I used the Plenty of Fish IM feature and we talked for awhile.
-A day passes...she messages me again with just a generic "Hey". In this message she says nice picture....I responded with indeed it is huh? She then said wait...have we talked before? She forgot about me within a day
despite talking a lot!
This is why you shouldn't get frustrated if a girl doesn't respond. I also thought of something else that could play a big factor. The plenty of fish inbox will only fit 10 messages on a page at a time. What I realized is sometimes a girl won't even know you responded back to her
! Think about it. You send her a message, she checks it 6 hours later. Within those 6 hours she could EASILY get 10+ messages and guess what? Your message would be bumped off the first page! Further reason why you need to communicate with her and often.Messaging Specifics
Alright so some of you have praised this thus far on how this guide has been more detailed than most, but I still feel I am not being specific enough with HOW I am messaging so I'll just make a screen shot of what did work for me:
Alright this first one is a current prospect, and honestly the girl I am liking the most out of anyone messaging wise. She works out at the same gym as I do which helped BIG TIME in getting her more interested. Anything you can use to get her more comfortable with you is a huge plus. She actually wrote detailed responses and followed up with questions which is really rare for a girl to do:
A couple of days later she was on facebook and we chatted for about 20 minutes then I asked for her number and we have been texting back and forth. We may set something up for thursday although I just found out I have to work...so I'll have to figure something out. Usually I get the girls number and not worry about the facebook, but everything seemed to work fine getting her Facebook first, but you HAVE to get her number. Text her every day, but don't text her too many times if she doesn't respond. No more than 2 of your texts to her text...if she doesn't respond after 2 in one day then 2 the next day she is done for and delete from your phone.