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 Post subject: Re: Horror movies
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I am mostly into 70's and 80's horror, but some modern horror pics are also interesting. I loved "Inside", "Haute Tension" and "Martyrs" - brutal and insanely bloody films, can't wait to see this new French zombie flick "La Horde". "Aftermath" is a beautiful and nightmarish necro horror, check out also "Nekromantik" and "Nekromantik 2" for more necro entertainment.

I saw many Japanese fucked up flicks like "Guinea Pig" series, "Guts of a Virgin" etc. Their erotica/ softcore porn is pretty extreme. The genre is called pinku eiga and includes for example bondage pink, violent pink etc. More info here:

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I agree with SucksToBeLoveShy, in slasher flicks the incel nerd is usually dispatched pretty quickly, but the final heroine is often the most virginal girl of the pack.

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I don’t really care for horror films, as they have never really appealed to me for some reason. However, there have been some that I’ve watched and really enjoyed. There was a slasher film I saw in high school that I thought was pretty righteous; it basically had a bunch of nude girls getting terrorized by a maniac with a guitar with a chainsaw attached. It was awesome.

If you like Jaws (which I don’t really consider a horror movie, but meh) then you should check out this movie called Duel, which I believe was Steven Spielberg's first film. It’s about a deranged truck driver following this lone motorist. Apparently it was the inspiration for Jaws or something.

Also, this last December I watched this film called Silent Night, Deadly Night. It was pretty awesome too – the promotion poster was the best thing I ever saw – it was Santa’s arm clutching an axe as he went down the chimney. Basically this kid witnesses his parents getting killed by a guy dressed in a Santa suit, and he snaps during a Christmas. There was another holiday themed horror film called Black Santa’s Revenge, which seems like the encapsulation of everything good in the world, but I haven’t seen it yet.

The rest of the stuff you mention terrifies me. I will never watch Cannibal Holocaust. You couldn’t pay me enough to watch that movie. It sounds awful.

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where do you guys download or watch these? In dvds? In my fucking country there is no legit business to sell these types. For black market they generally sell stupid hollywood movies. In the US I was able to fınd but in here no. İf anyone knows a website good for downloads or watching it would be great.


So Turkey is known for making Turkish versions of Star Wars, Star Trek and Spider-Man yet nobody produces horror? What kind of secular Islamic country is this?

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I don’t really care for horror films, as they have never really appealed to me for some reason. However, there have been some that I’ve watched and really enjoyed. There was a slasher film I saw in high school that I thought was pretty righteous; it basically had a bunch of nude girls getting terrorized by a maniac with a guitar with a chainsaw attached. It was awesome.


"Slumber Party Massacre 2" (1987) Fun flick!


When it comes to Turkey they did many crazy rip-offs during 70's. Few years ago I watched "Seytan" from 1974 I think. It's a shameless Turkish remake of William Friedkin's "The Exorcist" that copies it scene after scene. It uses the same exact set-up as "The Exorcist"- a young girl, living with her well-to-do mother, becomes possessed by Satan after tooling around on a Ouija board. Of course there's the head spinning, the mustard spitting, the message written across her abdomen and even the scene where she comes downstairs to pee herself to the dismay of her mother and her guests. They play "Tubular Bells" hundreds of times in "Seytan".

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Likewise, deep in the mind of modern woman is the same hunter-gatherer calculator, too recently evolved to have changed much: strive to acquire a provider husband who will invest food and care in your children; strive to find a lover who can give those children first-class genes. Only if she is very lucky will they both be the same man . . . Men are to be exploited as providers of parental care, wealth and genes." - Matt Ridley "The Red Queen"

"Humor won’t save you; it doesn’t really do anything at all. You can look at life ironically for years, maybe decades; there are people who seem to go through most of their lives seeing the funny side, but in the end, life always breaks your heart. Doesn’t matter how brave you are, how reserved, or how much you’ve developed a sense of humor, you still end up with your heart broken. That’s when you stop laughing. In the end there’s just the cold, the silence and the loneliness. In the end, there’s only death." - Houellebecq


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I don’t really care for horror films, as they have never really appealed to me for some reason. However, there have been some that I’ve watched and really enjoyed. There was a slasher film I saw in high school that I thought was pretty righteous; it basically had a bunch of nude girls getting terrorized by a maniac with a guitar with a chainsaw attached. It was awesome.


"Slumber Party Massacre 2" (1987) Fun flick!


When it comes to Turkey they did many crazy rip-offs during 70's. Few years ago I watched "Seytan" from 1974 I think. It's a shameless Turkish remake of William Friedkin's "The Exorcist" that copies it scene after scene. It uses the same exact set-up as "The Exorcist"- a young girl, living with her well-to-do mother, becomes possessed by Satan after tooling around on a Ouija board. Of course there's the head spinning, the mustard spitting, the message written across her abdomen and even the scene where she comes downstairs to pee herself to the dismay of her mother and her guests. They play "Tubular Bells" hundreds of times in "Seytan".

yeah man I watched it in turkey. It is a shameless copy from 70s I guess. In 70s Turkish cinema produced eccentric movies, mostly for adult entertainment. But you should see a turkish movie from 70s named "dünyayı kurtaran adam". It is an exact imitation of star-trek. But you can laugh at it a lot.I try to find a movie for my friend these days, I dont know the name but it is about some kind of frog or monster from sea that comes and rape and pregnate all women in a coastal town. He has a different interest.

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where do you guys download or watch these? In dvds? In my fucking country there is no legit business to sell these types. For black market they generally sell stupid hollywood movies. In the US I was able to fınd but in here no. İf anyone knows a website good for downloads or watching it would be great.


Have you tried using emule? I think there's lots of servers in your area for it so you should be set. Be be sure to use peerblock at the same time.


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mig-35 fulcrum wrote:
where do you guys download or watch these? In dvds? In my fucking country there is no legit business to sell these types. For black market they generally sell stupid hollywood movies. In the US I was able to fınd but in here no. İf anyone knows a website good for downloads or watching it would be great.


So Turkey is known for making Turkish versions of Star Wars, Star Trek and Spider-Man yet nobody produces horror? What kind of secular Islamic country is this?


turkısh horror movies are not that exceptional compare to europe. Mostly 70s films in turkey were sexual in nature and they were the product of the 70s. Since 1980s country is more conservative in that sensebut that doesnt change the fact that avarage age of a turkish girl who has sex dropped to 15 from 19-20 in 3 decades.

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I guess each to their own, but I can't watch horror movies (I have a weak stomach for blood and guts), and where is the entertainment value in watching innocent people being killed??

That said, some of the better horror flicks were the Omen movies (scared the fucking shit of out me, and gave me nightmares for three consecutive nights), and the original Excorcist (fuck, that was a shit scary movie).

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Just checked out A Serbian Film thanks to Erebus. Wild stuff; I was laughing through a lot of it just due to how ridiculously obscene it gets. Surprisingly well-made though. Usually when movies go that far it's a zero-budgeter August Underground type thing.

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I like a decent horror that actually scares you. Most 'horror' films do not. I like ghost stories mainly as they have a better ability to scare me. This is part of the reason I like 'Supernatural', a ghost story every week (at least in the earlier seasons) and they were actually scary.
True horror should make you afraid to turn the lights out, or walk home from the cinema, or go to bed, long after the film is finished. I find a lot of slasher pics often make you jump by building up tension and having the killer strike when you least expect it. This is laziness and anybody can do it. The 'horror' does not last.
The thing about horror films is they don't always have a decent plotline, which means they have to be scary in order for me to want to watch it. There are some that aren't scary, but still have a decent plot, like 'dawn of the dead' or something. I do like vampire films, but most do not fall under the genre of horror. In fact vampire films have almost become a genre of their own, complete with subgenres. I've only seen clips of it, but I would love to see 'Nosfiratu'. It has been parodied so many times over the last century that it may have lost what it originally had, but from what I've seen, it still has the ability to scare the shit out of me.

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Woman in Black (1989)- British TV film, not that creepy and hasn't aged well but scared me to death when I was a kid. I was so scared of it that I refused to watch alone when I downloaded it again in 2008, when I was already 20. You can see it on YT in parts pr download it on PirateBay

One Missed Call (Japanese version, 2003)- really creepy atmosphere, only film that really scared me

The Grudge, (Japanese version, 2003)- complicated film with multiple plots.

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Well,

I'm also a huge horror movie fan. There's not that much to add to the films that you mentioned. But I just want to add two little things:

The "Hellraiser" saga is one of my favorites. The first five movies were big budget productions. But after that it become direct to video crap. I only watched the sixth sequel out of them but I don't think hellraiser 7 & 8 differ much from it.

The first Hellraiser is a classic and one of the best made horror movies. I like the tension, the characters and the special effects. All well made. The second film isn't that good, I think. Most people like that film and many even say it's better than the first. But I didn't like the crappy visual animations which killed the film in my eyes. There's no atmosphere.

The third and fourth movie are quite trashy. The fourth plays in space, you know it's crappy. But I enjoyed the third movie because of it's 80's flair.

One of my favorites is the fifth Hellraiser. It's visually well made and has nice surrealistic elements in it which makes it a little nice mindfuck movie.

Also one of my favorites is the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre from year 1973. It's one of the rare films which scared me. It has a really nice rough and dirty atmosphere and you don't know what's going to happen next. You should definately check it out.

Okay. Tomorrow I will write something about the German horror movie scene. I didn't expect to write that much.


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I dont watch horror movies. Even the tamest ones would give me nightmares. :oops:


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Just watched Hellraiser 7. Man, what a piece of trash. No tension, boring story, shitty actors. Even the special make up effects suck. I'm glad that they aren't producing any sequels anymore.


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