Lets try and put this in words you can understand. Every day you wake up and go to work, school, whatever. Once there you get kicked in the teeth by every woman who walks by, If you try to block it some white knight comes by and holds you down to make sure you take the hit if one can't then two will. Every day for 20+ years, you getting the point yet? You have precious few choices at that point, stop showing up at work/school/ect, arrange your life so you no longer have to deal with said situation, get fed up and go postal to gain some manor of self respect, suicide or bend over every time and say go ahead and kick me to save the white knight the trouble of holding you down so random women can kick you. Someone is asking for help after putting up with this for years and you say "toughen up and deal with it!" Not really fair in my opinion.

haitian fight song is an eccentric guy. I never see one message from him to support members here. Sorry maybe he support some female posters. Guy did not read gilmartin and has no idea about LS. But coming here and give us lessons about PC bullshit that society taught him in school.

Ah ok thanks.

Sorry that I don't read from your party line. I don't have any idea about "LS" because it's not any sort of separate disorder from social anxiety and avoidant personality. These are things I probably have. People here simply use "LS" as a label to cover a litany of problems. I am in a situation not dissimilar to yours, but I'm not crying for help and saying all kind of fatalistic things at such a young age. But I guess I'm a "troll" because I don't patronize things I disagree with. I try to be helpful, but really what percentage of this place is being helpful and what percentage is angry bickering and arguments?

You are wrong. If I became the most extroverted man tomorrow I'd still not be able to make any initiative with women.

LS isn't social anxiety but fear of 1. expressing interest 2. cold approaching with romantic interest.


Somebody becomes LS because he was socially anxious but once he becomes LS he can no longer be helped without gaining any experience with actually approaching women and he can't get that on his own because he is LS.

Are you aware that, as LS, you SHOULD BE UNABLE TO EVER MAKE THE SLIGHTEST INITIATIVE?

It's funny. They want something, and when someone, like an incel, happily offers it, they shy away as if we're lepers! It's sexist and simply unfair to say that only women may carry these thoughts, opinions, and dreams, and that men who also do so, are either insane, or homosexual.

As a woman, I can honestly say stay the hell away from her. Trust me.