Personally I'd rather be hated than pitied
Nothing worse when a woman finds out you are inexperienced and goes ...... awwwwwww!
(you hear that sound and you know theres no chance in hell of being with her)
fuck you bitch! I'd rather you hate me than pity me (same with indifference, at least emotions like love, hate etc are strong and tangible)
Sometimes I'm in a room (a class at uni) with girls and I'm there physically, (I can feel the table, etc)
but I may as well not be there
it's absolutely pointless, things are being said, the conversations are petty talk
we come, we go, we say hi, bye
and that's it, nothing actually matters;
they stick in their social group and it matters not how well we get on in class, once class is over ... nothing
I will have spent 3 years with these people but they may as well be ghosts

I feel like women treat me condescendingly. Like they don't take me seriously. I suspect they probably sense my inexperience (women have a very heightened social awareness usually). Rather than treating me as an equal, or even giving me a chance in a relationship, I get treated like a little boy.

I've even had winces directed at me before
I hate the way they de-sexalise treat you as if you don't have the instincts that all men have
just because we don't stat humping everything in sight doesn't mean we are asexual fucking plants!

For a little while I've been treated this way (like a little boy) by my friends too. They're all in couple or maried, have great jobs.
I'm the bachelor of the group, with a shitty job, living with my parents...
But honestly I'm glad to have them, If they hated me, I's be all by myself.

Yes. Me too. Just because I'm more quiet and sensible about it than others, doesn't mean I have no desires or feelings of my own.

Life marches on. We are the relics who get left behind, when we were young.

Not to worry: time drags down on most women, much worse then it does most men.

A few years ago, one of my friendzone women told me that I was pathetic. That's when it really hit me what my problem was.

Ouch. What made her say that to you?

Well, at a party a few years back, one of my crushes sat on the stairs across from me and GAVE me a look of pity, with a sigh.

At subsequent parties I'd go to, she'd make an effort to come talk to me. She knew I liked her that way but she never had the feelings the same for me and I had to leave it at that.

I've had numerous crushes (well, 3) look at me with pity like they felt sorry for me. My waitress crush would sit at the bar and look over at me and make a pouty face. I couldn't tell if it was pity or disdain. To me, pity is sometimes worse because it's like they think you're pathetic so it's like they have a reason to feel sorry for you. That automatically puts you on a 'lower' playing field or level than them. Like, awww, poor thing! I don't want pity, I want respect dammit!

Any woman who ever called me "pathetic" to my face would probably be spitting teeth, or withering on the ground, from a punch to the abdomen, same as a guy would.

And, yes, I would gladly to to jail over that. There are some things in life that your just _DON'T_ do, unless you are willing to put up with the consequences of YOUR actions.

Fortunately, most people know better then to say such an utterly repulsive thing to a man like me, so it has not occurred.

Calling people such names, be they women or men, disgusting terms like "fat", "ugly", "obese" and "pathetic",
are not only impolite, but one risks the utter wrath of the victim of such evil words.

You, lastvirgin, need to dump the "friendzone" woman, who called you such a vile name, IMO.

She is _NOT_ your friend.

Your incel is much worse if you contain a sense of dignity.

I could never deal with something like that. That's why I dumped all my friends.