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PostPosted: 11 Nov 2011, 00:36 
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What are you thoughts on the firing of Joe Paterno?

Personally I feel he is being scapegoated almost as if he commited the sexual assaults himself.

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I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.


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I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.

I feel that way to. I mean can you really go to the police on just an aligation that someone saw something without at first consulting his superiors?

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I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.

I feel that way to. I mean can you really go to the police on just an aligation that someone saw something without at first consulting his superiors?


really? The guy was his assistant coach for 30 years and you think he had NO idea what was going on behind closed doors? It seems pretty obvious that this was an ongoing issue, and there plenty of hints along the way (as good as Sandusky seemed to be at hiding things). What would you do if somebody you trusted made a similar allegation about your business partner for decades? Sweep it under the rug? Or try and get to the bottom of it, either to exonerate your friend from false charges or to stop more kids lives from being destroyed? I'm reading a lot of stuff in defense of JoePa and it's all very well written and convincing, but then I come to my senses and think "he could of stopped a child rapist, but didn't". Ultimately that's what this comes down to, and there isn't any way around it.

Granted, I do think it's unfair the way he's being singled out. The issue is with the program as a whole, but he was/is a big part of that, and had influence enough to do something about it. While I don't think he should be treated like a child molester (and I don't see anybody doing this), he certainly should be held accountable for his failure to act appropriately in this disturbing situation. I'm not saying it should overshadow his legacy at Penn State as he clearly did some good things, but it came at a severe cost and this needs to be acknowledged.


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Whirlwind wrote:
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I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.

I feel that way to. I mean can you really go to the police on just an aligation that someone saw something without at first consulting his superiors?



This is America, 2011.

All people, particulary women, have to do is call the cops with some claim of foul play. Then they arrest you with or without probable cuase, and bust into your home, looking for evidence and stealing things like your guns, if you have any, along with anything else they might fancy.

Fuck the police state the USA has become!

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Even if he was initially in shock, the case that we KNOW about was back in 2002. If Joe Pa really believed that Sandusky was innocent then why did he support the rule banning Sandusky from bringing any children to campus?

Worse than just Joe Pa is that NOBODY in that Penn State chain of command bothered to go to the police over 9 years. What about the athletic director, assistant president and university president? And how about the assistant coach who was a grad assistant back in 02 and witnessed the incident. Why couldn't he eventually go to the cops when it was clear that Sandusky was still around?

I like to believe that if I was in the position that the grad assistant was that I would physically separate Sandusky from the kid and beat Sandusky until he was out cold. At least, I think that I would have gone to the cops if I was too freaked out and/or intimidated by Sandusky.

The whole thing is disgusting, and while Sandusky is innocent until proven guilty, I have a hard time believing that all of these people coming forward as victims are either lying or have mistaken his identity for somebody else. He was arrested after a long and thorough investigation.

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Even if he was initially in shock, the case that we KNOW about was back in 2002. If Joe Pa really believed that Sandusky was innocent then why did he support the rule banning Sandusky from bringing any children to campus?

Worse than just Joe Pa is that NOBODY in that Penn State chain of command bothered to go to the police over 9 years. What about the athletic director, assistant president and university president? And how about the assistant coach who was a grad assistant back in 02 and witnessed the incident. Why couldn't he eventually go to the cops when it was clear that Sandusky was still around?

I like to believe that if I was in the position that the grad assistant was that I would physically separate Sandusky from the kid and beat Sandusky until he was out cold. At least, I think that I would have gone to the cops if I was too freaked out and/or intimidated by Sandusky.

The whole thing is disgusting, and while Sandusky is innocent until proven guilty, I have a hard time believing that all of these people coming forward as victims are either lying or have mistaken his identity for somebody else. He was arrested after a long and thorough investigation.

How about the board of trustees members Im sure the ones that were around from that time or even more recently knew something was going on. They are probably covering their own collective ass. I also do not like the way the media is portraying Joe Paterno as if he commited these acts against these children himself.

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It's possible he's being turned into the bad guy here. But no less deserved. Those other 2 guys retired or something. Not like they're off the hook. I think the public's just focusing on him because everyone knows who he is. IMO everyone involved in this is a scumbag, and not enough people are/will do jail time because of it.
The students all wearing white in support of him thing is absolutely fuckin retarded though.

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What I find is the saddest(and disturbing) about this whole clusterfuck situation is that students went on a rioting spree not because of the allegations of child molestation by a former Penn State staffer but because they fired coach Paterneo. I agree the media has for the most part went left on the man but at the same time the trustees had to have somebody fall on the proverbial sword- right or wrong.

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I think it was appropriate that he was fired.

What I don't find appropriate is how he is being scapegoated, like he committed the acts himself. He made a poor judgment, but he is not a child molester!

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here's a really great article concerning this
http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-jo ... all-police

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The old fucker should have retired 10 years ago anyways.


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oncebitten55 wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:
BlindinTX wrote:
I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.

I feel that way to. I mean can you really go to the police on just an aligation that someone saw something without at first consulting his superiors?



This is America, 2011.

All people, particulary women, have to do is call the cops with some claim of foul play. Then they arrest you with or without probable cuase, and bust into your home, looking for evidence and stealing things like your guns, if you have any, along with anything else they might fancy.

Fuck the police state the USA has become!


I like how you took a situation regarding a man potentially molesting young boys into a women bashing opportunity! I see what you did there!


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oncebitten55 wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:
BlindinTX wrote:
I think he's being unfairly thrown under the bus.

I feel that way to. I mean can you really go to the police on just an aligation that someone saw something without at first consulting his superiors?



This is America, 2011.

All people, particulary women, have to do is call the cops with some claim of foul play. Then they arrest you with or without probable cuase, and bust into your home, looking for evidence and stealing things like your guns, if you have any, along with anything else they might fancy.

Fuck the police state the USA has become!


I like how you took a situation regarding a man potentially molesting young boys into a women bashing opportunity! I see what you did there!


He does have a point.

Radical feminists do have the ability to attack men without probable cause. But this is about some sick kid fucker, not about women.

If this dude was fucking women, and it was consensual, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But no...he's a sick pedo kiddy diddler!

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