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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2012, 03:51 
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I found this on reddit and since you guys like talking about male vs female rights all the time I'd share it here.

If he calls 911...

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This actually happened to me. My wife and I got in a fight, and she started to beat the shit out of me. I never touched her. My nose was broken and bleeding, and at one point, taking a kick to the face knocked me out. She got scared and called 911. The police arrived and arrested ME. I was charged with felony domestic violence by the ever so wonderful state of California. Luckily, the DA's office threw my case out two weeks later, and she was never charged.


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And this was filmed 3 years ago. How are issues like these never properly addressed? Clearly this is a real problem in today's society if women are allowed to get away with violence against men so easily. (I'm all for human rights, aka equality for both sexes) Thoughts? Opinions? Is this an issue only found in America? (Crime/violence is so damn low across the board in Canada that I could not come up with a real-life experience where I've seen this myself and the few cases I have heard of being reported either the appropriate person was charged or both people were)


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It's a rather big double standard, and I'm not saying either is good or justifiable.

If a man beats his wife he's abhorred as the worst in the world. If a women is the perperpatrator of said violence, society laughs at the man.


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foxyproxy wrote:
It's a rather big double standard, and I'm not saying either is good or justifiable.

If a man beats his wife he's abhorred as the worst in the world. If a women is the perperpatrator of said violence, society laughs at the man.


Bull-pucky.

Women STILL count on the OLD standards that men like me live by. We don't hit women. Period.

Yes, I know that the "rules" have changed, but many men, even younger men that I, still live by the
"rules" of chivalry, and most women still depend on that, even though times have changed for the worse,
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oncebitten55 wrote:
Bull-pucky.

Women STILL count on the OLD standards that men like me live by. We don't hit women. Period.

Yes, I know that the "rules" have changed, but many men, even younger men that I, still live by the
"rules" of chivalry, and most women still depend on that, even though times have changed for the worse,
I might add.

So what are you saying? That there's no domestic violence instigated by men anywhere? That's quite the generalisation.


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I think the problem is, (like when a man files a complaint for rape by a woman), there is that old macho pride coming up again by male society, which makes the victim feels like he wasn't "man enough" to resist or fight back - "how does he dare claiming to the society that yeah, he's been beaten / raped by a woman? the wuss!". Just reading comments on articles about domestic violence against men is sickening; most of the time, the other men are ridiculizing the victim.

Women can be bloody nasty, I remember the girl fights in school, it was really different from the male ones. It was way more violent in a sense. The boys usually stopped at some point, cooled off and they got over it. With the girls, it was never over in a way.


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foxyproxy wrote:
oncebitten55 wrote:
Bull-pucky.

Women STILL count on the OLD standards that men like me live by. We don't hit women. Period.

Yes, I know that the "rules" have changed, but many men, even younger men that I, still live by the
"rules" of chivalry, and most women still depend on that, even though times have changed for the worse,
I might add.

So what are you saying? That there's no domestic violence instigated by men anywhere? That's quite the generalisation.


No, quite the opposite. In many instances, its the WOMAN who is the domestically violent person, who goes nuts.

Thats how it was in my family. My father had very little control over my mother. And not once did he ever hit her.

And believe me, she would have well deserved a good "spanking", going by what I now know, well over 40 years later.

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oncebitten55, I don't know anything about your father, but most of the time, the physical one comes with a psychological one. Many victims of abuse are also psychologically manipulated into thinking they deserve what's coming onto them (coming on them? not sure about my English here, sorry). It makes them unable to stop the circle of violence. You hear a lot of things like "yeah, but otherwise she's nice with me most of the time", "it's a one-time thing" even though it's not... It's just a manifestation of the emotional turmoil the victim ends up living in.


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Dsea wrote:
oncebitten55, I don't know anything about your father, but most of the time, the physical one comes with a psychological one. Many victims of abuse are also psychologically manipulated into thinking they deserve what's coming onto them (coming on them? not sure about my English here, sorry). It makes them unable to stop the circle of violence. You hear a lot of things like "yeah, but otherwise she's nice with me most of the time", "it's a one-time thing" even though it's not... It's just a manifestation of the emotional turmoil the victim ends up living in.


Dsea, I understand what you are saying, and I am not claiming that men do not hit women, but my father was not
that kind of man, and neither am I. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you wish to view it, we lived in
a time when people did not call the police for family disturbances, as they are well known to do, in this day and age.

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In the west, people are outraged by genital mutilations perpetrated against women in Africa... A whole other continent and culture thousands of miles away. Yet when a man's penis is forcefully cut off in the western world, people laugh.

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oncebitten55 wrote:
No, quite the opposite. In many instances, its the WOMAN who is the domestically violent person, who goes nuts.

Thats how it was in my family. My father had very little control over my mother. And not once did he ever hit her.

And believe me, she would have well deserved a good "spanking", going by what I now know, well over 40 years later.

Fair enough, your original post depicted such, hence my question. Anyway my original point wasn't anything more than an agreement with the OP, violence instigated by both genders are treated drastically different.


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Dsea wrote:
I think the problem is, (like when a man files a complaint for rape by a woman), there is that old macho pride coming up again by male society, which makes the victim feels like he wasn't "man enough" to resist or fight back - "how does he dare claiming to the society that yeah, he's been beaten / raped by a woman? the wuss!". Just reading comments on articles about domestic violence against men is sickening; most of the time, the other men are ridiculizing the victim.

That wouldn't be so much of a problem if at least the authorities took male victims seriously. When your life is in danger it doesn't matter if the whole world laughs at you as long as you get some help. But with the way things are nowadays, you can't even expect that...


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That's linked I think. The justice system is still rigged in that issue, due to the remains of machism mostly. It hasn't adjusted yet to the changes in society.


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This man speaks the truth:

http://youtu.be/AqTdZs_ZkDc?t=1m50s

Even better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpW3orlfp7E


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I'm always disturbed by the flaying, uncoordinated, scatty, wild verbal assault that accompanies female attacks like that. Unfortunately, it is not uncommon to see them disciplining a wild child in similar manner. Its the wild uncoordinated, I believe, that has historically encouraged women from refraining from physical defense or attack. I am impressed by how much more controlled men can be (or at least appear) when having to deal physically with someone. Not that abuse is ever right, it is disturbing in another way seeing the women in the videos flaying at their man. Especially that kick. He looks restrained by something else, defiantly not her. Dignity perhaps.


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Women need to decide. Either they accept equality in ALL aspects of life, or we go back to pre-feminist times (I personally prefer the former, but I know most guys here want the latter). They can't have their cake and eat it too.

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