This crap about all girls can join up for free.

Have you noticed that?
Makes dating sites useless. Means women who don't care less can join ten million of them, while men have to pay gazillions of pounds just to join one. Yeah right. No wonder internet dating sites are so fucking useless for heterosexual males.
The world is rigged against us. Gays don't have this problem. Only heterosexual men do. Jesus, if you're born a het male, you've got the thin end of the wedge. No wonder we're screwed.

There was an announcement some time ago about a MMORPG where female players could get discounts on in-game items (or free items, I don't remember). However, since the gaming community is still predominantly male, there was some backlash, so they later added an equivalent set of benefits for male players. And even then, most of the backlash had nothing to do with the fact that women were entitled to free stuff, it was because the free stuff was only awarded to women who played with a male partner, thus the game discriminated against homosexuals.

I'm quick to point out cases like that, whenever my feminist acquaintances try to argue that society is male-centric or male-dominated. They usually respond with "but those cases are different, that's the way it should be". Hypocrites. You don't get to support things like that and then claim you're all about "equality". No way.

One's I've looked at, everyone can join for free but you have to pay to receive/send messages or see the users whole profile.

For me it's the same kind of shit as free entrance for women in clubs... Don't know if it's common elsewhere but in Paris, it's sometimes "free for women till 11pm" or something. Overall it's disgusting, appealing to women to gather them there and attract men and make them pay for it. First, it's unfair - a customer is a customer, and if they have access to the same perks, they should equally pay, and second, it also gives the feeling to men in these nightclubs or dating sites the feeling that they are entitled to get something back because they pay, and the women don't. It's a shameful marketing scheme and I honestly think it should be made illegal everywhere, whether on dating sites, in night clubs and so on.

Amen Dsea.
When I talck about this topic in a conversation they consider me as a misogynistic piece of shit.

With dating sites it makes perfect sense. when you go all free like okcupid or fish it's just a hell hole for everyone.

without women, no men will join. It's an economic thing. Women are the products, men are the buyers. But the women benefit from the transaction too. Entirely one-sided yes, but it makes logical sense.

When you try to politically correct it up it fucks it all to hell.

A few clubs do that near to me (here in the UK), but only for one night a week. Or often on student nights as they know it will be VERY popular and it means more drinks'll be bought therefore more money in their pockets. But another way to look at it, is that men will generally stay wall flowers until some girls are on the dancefloor, so they can try & impress them. If there were not many women, or none at all, it would just be a load of blokes trying to chat with dance music booming. Kinda like standing round in a pub but not being able to hear anyone's conversation. Clubs prefer to pack the place out with women, so the men will follow. Also women are more likely to drink a LOT more than the men so in the business sense, the price tends to be equal. Women in free = lots of drinks = loads of money whereas paying men = less drinks = still loads of money.

It is unfair but what business isn't towards the consumer.

women are the reason clubs exist. Of course they get in free. If you own a club and aint got no bitches showin up, you're fuckin up. The women come to do whatever it is they do, the men come to find the women. If there ain't no women, the men aren't gonna stick around and bob to the music.

Design a club that makes women feel comfortable, safe, but is also cool and you've got yourself a successful club.

You can't always let them in free because then it just slows down over the week. Free on friday tells everyone friday is the day to go to the club.

I agree, it's all a bunch of horseshit.

When I bartended in San Francisco, "ladies night" at the club I worked was Thursday. Women didn't pay cover (which was $20.00) and they had "drink specials" (Cosmos, jaeger bombs $4.00 each).

To add insult, the club jacked-up the price for men $5.00 on this night ($25.00 instead of $20.00). A Budweiser on tap here cost $5.00.......

and the "ladies" still expected guys to buy drinks for them.

This nightclub was overall pretty swanky. The funny thing was, there was ALWAYS at least three guys there for every girl.

Hmmmm. Makes you groan. Ah, what do women want? What do they want? One can be friendly to them, one can chat to them. Sometimes they'll even give a little flirt. I would really really like to know what the bit is that is missing from me. Do I send out a stink signal? What do I do when there are women? What training do I need to alter these pheromones?

3 blokes to every woman. There is this ancient legend I once heard about a night club that had a higher ratio of women to men. Eldorado I believe it is called.

Simple. Women mainly want attention from other guys whether they are interested or not in the guy giving them attention. If a guy comes up and ask them out and they dig the guy, there is a mutual benefit and the woman also gets to brag about it to her female friends. If guys come up and ask them out and they aren't interested they at least still get to brag about all the attention they get and even if they don't really care for any of the guys at all, they get some free drinks in the process.

Women who go out and get no attention (whether from guys they like or dislike) actually feel bad in the process and feel like they don't look good enough/hair isn't right/or not wearing the right clothes.

Women are big attention freaks and men naturally caters to this because this probably go all the way back to old courting processes where men gave women gifts in order to win courtship.

Many men actually feel like the women getting in free actually does them a favor because it attracts a whole bunch of attention seeking women in one area, where men can try to win over women.


It is very rare that a woman will ask a guy out at a club, especially if the guy don't seem to be having much of a good time. There are always exceptions though.

Generally I will get flirts about every 5 or 6 times I go out. Sometimes free drinks work to your favor because a drunk woman can usually be more easy going and lets down her defenses.

There isn't no one rule that works when talking to a woman, a bold tactic that will work for one woman, might get your face slapped by the next woman. Sometimes playing nice can work, but othertimes women won't be attracted to you.

I think where many men think more similar in terms of what they want in a woman. Women tend to be all over the board but in general desire more extroverted guy and money/status helps. Many times it isn't even what you say but how you say it and body language.

Which actually means to design the club more in the guys' favor, they prices should have been higher for the guy. If set too high though, the average dude would see little value which would turn away a lot of dudes and in turn the women would turn away as well.

Those club owners do get things like that down to a science.


A club where guys got in free would only attract guys and would be more of a guys bar where a person would just go for more of a drink.

An equal paying club would also attract a lot of guys. Many clubs like

A strip club sounds similar in some respects:

Guys have to pay cover, girls do not

More guys than girls

Drinks are expensive

Guys buy girls drinks and/or give tips

But ... better in other respects:

Girls take off their clothes for you

Girls sit in your lap nude

If the girl likes you then you can touch (depending on the club rules)

And probably, you have just as much chance getting something more from a stripper than some random club girl

Feminists actually have a term for that. It's called "benevolent sexism". It's used as a counter to "male privilege", because according to them there is no such thing as "female privilege". That's why they invented this new term to explain the ways females get advantages in society. The argument goes that these "good things" one gets from being female are still rooted in sexism against them, ie, a guy gives a girl a dollar cause you think she's pretty. She benefits by getting the dollar, but is still "oppressed" and objectified for her looks. I guess it's their way of acknowledging the dollar but also that it's not a fair trade off for what they lose.

Now for this kind of example and a few others it makes some sense but there is no way that all the advantages women have in society can be explained by "benevolent sexism". For example, more women are getting into colleges/university where men are falling behind. Clearly there is some major aspect of society working in favor of females, and it certainly isn't rooted in any kind of sexism against them.