Did a Craigslist posting per parameters laid out on this thread.
I need to open a deep fry all you can eat catfish place like Rudy's BBQ.
I sent 17 emails today to the FBI with the emails sent to me trying to steal cc money.

Personally I want online to work cause everything else is basicly asking for me to forget love sex and everything nice.

Im more than willing to be proven wrong and admit so when I am.

DO NOT EVER take that as shyness or weakness. I consider it humbleness.

My issue is not effort but rather a woman does need to say yes for going out. Make Belive imagination dating DOES NOT COUNT.

I've made some progress on the online dating front, I've got one number and the promise of meeting for coffee later in the week
What now?

What was the last interaction between you? If you for instance, felt like you did the chasing up to ask and are waiting to hear back then I wouldn't message again. Leave it to her.

Well remember that nobody here is exactly an expert on dating (!!), but I would say if there are several days before you meet up, you should send her a txt saying how much you are looking forward to meeting her.....

Then, work out where you want to take her, and also some nice things that you want to say to her. If you work them out ahead of time, you will probably manage to say some of them, instead of just mumbling! Also figure out somewhere else to offer to take her for the following date.

Do you have any idea what sort of thing she likes?

FS

Call her and have a conversation and try to build some rapport. If you build up some rapport and get on well over the phone, she'll be looking forward to your date.

Don't get me started. Three years ago, I started with Tinder, after being goaded by my sister. You like people, people like you, sometimes you like each other. Sometimes she responds right away, sometimes they don't respond at all. I've tried all sorts of openings, from the "I like x from your profile, did you also like x2?" or the "Hey, watcha doin?", or the "Attempt at Joke relevant to her interests". I basically varied it, because the Others varied it too to me. Then, I felt the pool was getting shallower - just not my type of girl anymore (too much 'cheapness', and if there's one thing I will not do, it's cheap, meaningless sex. Looking for a relationship, not a hookup. (reason why? Because I have to get comfortable around someone before getting intimate and that just takes me several dates (dozens of hours) at least)) ). I then switched to e-matching and okcupid - both payed. People a little more serious - except OkCupid, you run into the odd 'experimental' type - lesbian couples looking to spice it up and such. Yes, people will like you at first and then ignore your. I've liked people, only to unlike them later when reading their bios. I guess some people don't bother... Now, in my second year, it feels like a drag and I don't know if I'll renew the subscription. So much of the profiles are the same: if I had a dollar for every profile that listed 'Intouchables' as favorite movie and 'Barcelona' as favorite getaway destination...I'd be Scrooge McDuck.

Anyway, still, on with the grind. We have to learn to accept rejection. I know it's tough, but so is life and we all have a cross to bear. And especially when glimmers of hope are few and far between, it's so tempting to raise your hopes, only for them to crash harder. (I was -still am- one of those "She said Hi. We're getting married!" overly enthusiastic hopefuls). Is it all unjust? Unfair? Feels so. Is it rigged against us? Maybe. Does it hurt? Every. Damned. Time.

I wonder what goes wrong for you. I mean you certainly must send out a lot of messages. It is easy to 'fall in love' with every girl you decide to message, but that is not helpful! I mean a lot of them will have already met someone, but still be on the site - at least until the next payment is due.

Have you actually had any dates? My theory is that a really LS man has to endure a few dates that don't go anywhere, just to get used to the experience - then suddenly things can improve rather amazingly.

I can well understand that you want to get to know a girl a bit before going to bed with her, but you probably can't tell from their profile whether this is something they would want to do. It is best to message at least some girls who don't display a picture of their face, or who are less attractive. They will probably want to get you too before going to bed, and they will have far fewer messages from other men.

If a few lesbians use the site to try to attract a man to join a threesome, well just ignore them - those sites are used by lots of people, and you only need to meet one nice girl.

FS

Tinder

Avoid POF and meetme, people are fucking psycho on there

Ashley Madison too...

Ain’t nothin but catfish there.

Of course, the ones that ignore ya are probably real people.

One other thing if it ain’t been mentioned. Anyone that comes off with some crap about a “meetup agreement number”? Run. That’s a scheme used by the owner of Fluffy Bunnies and exploretruelove.com to steal credit card info.

Nowadays I don't use (or need) dating, but I really think if you are going to make a remark like that, it would help to explain what you mean. What exactly is a meetup agreement number, and how could someone use it to steal credit card information?

Do you have any evidence for this, and have you passed it on to law enforcement?

FS

The whole concept is a crock, despite some elaborate lookin fake webpage that some catfish sent me once that supposedly featured some gal gettin murdered after agreein to a meetup.

The idea was that ya gotta register, and this “background check” was conducted via your credit card number, and after about half a dozen redirects now your signed up on some datin site based in the UK.

It’s international, so law enforcement ain’t doin squat unfortunately.

Thanks, you've taught me something I didn't know.

You know, many of you men are so obsessed with your theories about women, and all their supposed deviousness, that you throw away your chances right left and centre. Why not have sent a positive message - something like "Yeah sometimes breaking up can be really painful, so why not contact me again when you feel better - I'd love to get to know you better."

That wouldn't stop you going with someone else if the chance arises, but why waste a possible opportunity? I mean, people do have messy separations - she is probably telling the truth!

FS

I'd just like to add, that it may well help (I didn't try it myself) to go to a professional photographer and tell him what you want the picture for. I'd bet they know more about producing a good picture for dating than anyone else!

My other thought, is have several pictures done, and try a different picture after a while (weeks at least) if you get no responses.

In my experience, replies seem to build up after you have been a member for a month or two. I don't really know why, but I was getting more replies just around the time when I found someone. I didn't message the others to explain the situation, because I might have needed to return to one of them! I'd guess the women probably use exactly the same tactic.

FS

Nothing really to add to this, the fitness is on point. You will passively garner more attention just by going to the gym, or posting some pics on insta of you at the gym. Or facebook or whatever. It's basicly just free advertisement for yourself. And the attention itself will give you a confidence boost of finally being noticed.

- Pictures are important, as is lighting, make sure the lighting is in front of you, not on the side. If you have female friends, make a couple and ask them which ones are the best. Learn how to make good looking pictures considering the shape of your head and features. Personally for example, im pierced and the girls i go for are generally tatted and pierced, so just showing off a little bit more, i tilt my head slightly.

- Girls nowadays are hounded by men wanting just sex. If you're in the same catagory and just want sex, don't make it seem like you want just that. Get her emotionally invested. Compliment her, open up a little (brief 1 sentence aspect of your life you have no problem disclosing) make her feel trusted and special. But also learn to keep your distance, don't overwhelm her with replies and questions. If you hold back a little, you can easily notice if she's interested. While you were leading the conversation at the start, she will slowly take over and take lead. That's when you ask for her number and move things more privately.

- Online dating, okcupid/pof and badoo have "hot or not"-like games, which are the main ways to get matches, and also the reason why a good 1st picture is so very important. What I didn't see mentioned, delete your profile every now and then. When you've got some new (and better) pics, just delete your profiel, setup a new one with the new pics, and you'll be entered into the hot or not game like a new member. Another chance at attracting females in your area. This also works for tinder up to some point, but not as effectively. It can provoke new attention, but since matches (and dislikes) are stored on the female' tinder as well, you're not going to get another chance if you use the sign up via facebook option. Create a custom account and it will work fine. If you did use facebook, make sure to also remove the facebook app for tinder in facebook settings